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7 minutes ago, Kingman said:

I believe there is some kind of certain age by a certain date caveat to be eligible? 

Think that's why Tim can't be involved till March. 

@useless maybe remembers the requirements? 

I think you’re getting the under age (U21) B list rules the home grown player rule muddled up.

The U21 B List allows any number of players to be made available, they have to be under 21 at the season calculation cut off date, and have been trained at the club for at least 2 years.

The homegrown club player rule is part of the 25 man senior squad, a minimum of 4 players need to be homegrown at the club, that means they must have been trained at the club for 3 years prior to turning 21 (or by the end of the season of their 21st birthday).

Kesler Hayden I think qualifies for both, he only turned 21 a couple of months ago and is a homegrown player. He could either go into the senior A list (as it’s currently not full due to not previously having 4 homegrown players) or the B list for U21 players, it makes no difference in practice this season. 

Tim Iroebunam qualifies for neither, although he’s the right age he hasn’t been at the club for 2 years (he was loaned out) so he’s neither a B list player or a homegrown player, he has to go on the normal player list (he’d be a homegrown country player but that irrelevant as it’s already well covered across the squad). You might be thinking of Kellyman, who joined in March 2022 and therefore will have gained his required 2 years for the B list in March 2024, but it depends on when the squad lists have to be submitted (i.e. if it’s submitted in advance at the end of the Jan transfer window then he probably won’t be eligible). 

If Chambers was de-registered for the squad (i.e. we sold him or just didn’t want to use him) then that creates 1 space for a non-homegrown senior player which could be either Tim Iroegbunam or Kellyman (who was listed as a senior player in the Hibs round), or someone else entirely, and also Kesler can also go in too as an extra player either as an U21 or homegrown senior player.

I liked Smith Rowe a few years ago but he’s barely played for 2 years, a combination of being injured and out of favour. It’s a hard situation to read, a move could reignite his career or it could be that he was just a flash in a pan and he’s already on a downwards trajectory. I’m not sure we’re in a position where we need to or would want to take the risk. 

This is a bit of an odd one, £7.5m isn’t that much nowadays but those smaller transfers all add up eventually, it’s a lot to pay for a development project player. I’m not too sure how easy it will be to integrate an 18 year old defender into our senior set up, the trend recently has been to get rid of youngsters rather than developing them in the team but for the outlay there has to be a pathway lined up. Hopefully we’ve pulled out a gem, I’m more intrigued than anything else.

7 minutes ago, Farlz said:

Doesn’t seem too highly rated by Argyle fans. 

1 minute ago, Pongo Waring said:

Seems highly rated by Arygle fans.

I’m so confused right now 

1 hour ago, JoshVilla said:

Don't know if this is real or not, but gives a decent indication. Can't imagine it'd look too different to this:

 

Looks like the lion is in the process of peeling off

13 hours ago, brummybloke said:

Just seen sansons contract is up at the end of the season, thought he had a year left so I take that one back.

Sanson is contracted until 2025, unfortunately. Hopefully we get some money for him, otherwise its £15m completely down the drain, amazing when you step back and think about how much money is pointlessly thrown around in football

1 hour ago, Jas10 said:

Btw… the original monochrome versions exist… and they are better…

 

Where is the effort and improvement in “the new one”?

Absurdly pointless…

Lazy as shit

The monochrome versions highlight the main problem with the main Lerner badge… the colours

3 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said:

The round one is the best of the three. It’s the favoured of the three by some distance on here, the consensus so far suggests (there are a few days left of the poll, I can’t imagine the voting is going to move much now).

Doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with the round badge. 

I do think more people dislike this new shield design, whatever it proves to be, than disliked the round the one when it appeared. My sense is that around half of the supporters liked/loved the round one, or just vaguely content. The other half either don’t like it or are meh about it (the meh crowd being a bit like the vaguely content crowd).

This new shield one, it really feels like it’s 90% + who dislike it. And not just on VT. Positive comments are few and far between.

The new leaked one has all the problems of the Lerner one plus the additional baggage of the farcical 2 year process. It’s no wonder people don’t like it. Add to that it looks like a low quality fan made badge design from about 10 years ago, too.

But the round badge is honestly a 5 or 6 out of 10 effort, which is better than the 1/10 new one, it’s not bad but it’s not particularly good or distinctive either. There seems to be a slightly obsessive view held by some that the badge has to be a circle even though for the majority of villa’s existence, they haven’t had a circular badge.

There is so much potential to create a far better badge than either the new one or the circle one. I just don’t get why after all of this they’ve basically gone back to the Lerner design. Even the fan made versions of the new one look far better than what they’ve come up with. If the new leaked becomes official then unfortunately it could easily become 3 badges in 3 years.

1 hour ago, Aston_Villan4 said:

Still not sure why I have the thought but I keep seeing MLS with the leaked one.

I didn’t think there were any MLS badges that bad

1 hour ago, nick76 said:

As I said yesterday, these new marketing items get copyrighted before anybody outside the project and executives/owners see them.  The fact that the FAB ie Villa fans = public, were being presented them at the FAB meeting on the evening of the 20th December and it got copyrighted on the 20th December leads me to believe they have followed practice that I am used to.

They do this so if somebody did leak it from FAB then somebody in Joe Public could’ve copyrighted it and then all Villa effort/cost has gone to waste. It’s legal protection.

The fact that Villa fans are obsessed with news even to the extent of looking for new copyrights from the club shouldn’t come as a surprise to the club but it looks like it did.  So the launch, if this is the badge, maybe after the horse has bolted to quote an old phrase.

I get why they'd want to get their protections in early but really you've just got to admit the club has made a bit of a howler by inadvertently leaking the new design. They probably didn't expect fans to go hunting for this stuff, but for whatever reason someone looked it up and found it, I guess that's not the club's fault but that's what happened so it's turned out to be a misjudgement on their side. Not that seeing the badge early is the end of the world. But realistically the chances of a member of the FAB stealing the design and trademarking it in advance for their own gain seems pretty slim to non-existent, I think there are rules on bad faith TM applications, and besides you'd never be able to register the badge without infringing on all the existing trademarks the club already owns in the first place.

4 hours ago, foreveryoung said:

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but would anyone take ESR from Arsenal. 

He's a tidy player, I like him but presumably Arsenal would want to bump up the fee and considering his recent appearance record it would be a gamble whilst giving money to one of our direct rivals

1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Couldn't find the exact article, but found another one which shows it.

We are basically just behind Everton and Chelsea. Not pretty is it

https://sqaf.club/premier-league-ffp-table/

Since when did villa lose £275m in 2021?

The official NWSE accounts show £0, -£37m, & -£99m in the last 3 years

Looks like someone is playing make believe with the figures

39 minutes ago, Galway Lion said:

Have the FAB representatives confirmed that this is the badge they were shown at the last meeting? If so did none of them actually ask what the f…. were the club thinking and how much money was wasted on that abomination?

From what I have read from the FAB, they feel stitched up by the (non) consultation process to the extent that some of them have complained to the FA

10 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said:

 

The left one is perfectly fine (apart from he made the lion too big), moving the text to the bottom seems like an own goal turning an OK badge into something that looks a bit off. The middle one is the best.

16 minutes ago, BG_Villa_Fan said:

We probably owe West Brom some %.

Wasn’t he signed on a Bosman after his WBA contract expired?

1 hour ago, Mantis said:

RB for me. It's a glaring weak spot.

I’m a bit worried that it’s so obvious we won’t do anything about it, in typical villa fashion 

1 minute ago, sidcow said:

You're not seriously suggesting he couldn't have cancelled Terrace View? 

He was appointed in mid May and I'm guessing construction started pretty quickly after the season finished so yeah there's probably not much he could have done in practice considering the Terrace View plans would have been finalised months in advance. The blame for the Terrace View 100% lies firmly with Purslow, not the guy who turned up a few days before the builders arrived.

4 hours ago, villa4europe said:

Arnau martinez their RB

Half of Europe is after him according to the rags 

 

Release clause of €20m apparently so easily available on that perspective, but perhaps not so easy if every one else is looking at him too

22 minutes ago, lexicon said:

RB is the only position I think is an issue tbh. I want to see Pau and Konsa as our CB pairing with someone more cool, calm and collected than Cash at RB. 

Agreed and even if you like Cash, having to cut up our centre back pairing and move our best centre back out wide in order to cover right back when our first choice isn’t available is far from ideal anyway

1 hour ago, HalfTimePost said:

Tbh the most frustrating thing is it's the first time I don't think he's really seen the issues. There's been calls he's made in the past that I disagreed with - there always will be - but this is the first time I think I've really disagreed with his post match presser as well.

He's saying we lost it in the final 30 mins and it's disappointing after the first 60 minutes. Ok, yeah, the goals came then. But we didn't deserve to win the match based on the first 60 minutes.

The first 30 minutes, yeah, sure, we looked like potential Champions, we were destroying them. Onana was bricking it every time he got the ball to his feet. Players were moaning at each other.

After that? It was like early 2000s United. We were constantly under it. We should've made changes much much sooner. By the time their 2nd went in, it was the wrong time to bring on Diaby and Zaniolo. Should've done it 20 minutes sooner to give them something else to think about.

Based on the 1st 60mins, we didn't deserve to win the game. It was frustrating that he was happy until then, as it was already clear for a good 30 minutes how that game was going to go if we didn't change something

Agreed, really disappointed with Emery last night. It was so obvious what was coming, we took the early lead but the players were obviously done in from the recent matches and once the tide started turning they had nothing left to give. In Emery’s defence we were down to the bare bones in the squad, but there were so many tired performances out there something had to be done even if they’re not his first choice players on the bench 

Right back in January is a top priority so Ezri can move back in the middle, he’s too important to use out wide

Played OK tonight but as others have said, he just isn’t a natural fit for Emery’s system at all.  Not having a player who can receive the ball and turn into midfield when being pressed is a huge miss when he’s asked to step in