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While this is a very poor run Gerard needs to be given time surely. Not even been there 12 months?!!?! His 2 signings are significant upgrades on their predecessors. 

he is obviously managing a fragile group with a lack of resilience/strength of character. This ongoing talk of captain seems unusual to me an highlights the fact he must be shaking his head at what he is witnessing both in the dressing room and on the pitch.
 

easy for me to say but I don’t think it’s time to panic yet

You are by far the better team but the finishing has been diabolical. Although with these on the counter there is that risk it could end badly. Can’t believe some of them misses though..danny ings as a premier league striker has to bury the one from the coutiniho free kick

They are fighting for him an bar some appalling finishing you should be a couple of goals up..he needs time. Unless you gonna get an absolute elite manager they all need time 

2 hours ago, El Segundo said:

Peter. I'd agree  you are right about the key decisions, and I'm grateful for once to have a ref who didn't ultimately influence the outcome.  But that still doesn't mean his performance was acceptable - just not as bad as some of the shockers we've had to endure.  There were quite a few obvious mistakes like giving/not giving  corners and throws given the wrong way (for both teams) that had me wondering if he could see straight.  The incident where he yellow carded Mings happened a few feet in front of him and was as clear as day a foul on Mings.  Mings jumped for the ball and was backed into and taken out mid air, which also endangered him.  He gave Everton another one first half when Richarlison was clearly backing into Mings or Konsa rather than being pulled or held.  And the non-foul on Ramsey running through when he was clearly kicked.  Too easily conned I think.  And despite ultimately not influencing the outcome, he seemed to be doing his best by adding 5 minutes from nowhere, and then playing an extra one on top giving Everton one final chance from a corner.  You may rate that as acceptable,  I think it's a sign of the appalling standards we are used to that some people do, and I'll have to disagree.   

I think the Prem/FA really need to invest in the refs. The standard is so poor. When you consider we have the best league in the world it’s not acceptable. Need to put some money into it an no also give the refs some respect an stop the abuse from players 

54 minutes ago, barry'sboots said:

No change then from the last two games

Ha ha I actually think the Everton fans hate him more. A scouser who supported Liverpool as a kid going onto play for Liverpool, win trophies an score against them numerous times. Oh an be better than any midfield player they ever had. 

It’s enough to make an evertonian’s balls itch. 

They can’t handle it trust me..but the reassuring thing for villa fans is gerrard won’t give a s**t in fact he used to love smashing the blue s**te an hopefully that continues tomorrow 

I can’t stand the blue s**te but I think the sacking of Benitez is not good timing for villa. they will likely have ‘big dunc’ in charge Saturday / they cannot STAND Steven Gerrard (in fact he is probably the person Everton fans hate more than anyone ever) so the crowd an players be well up for it.

you could do with a decent start to calm the place down. Won’t take long for them to direct their bitterness an anger at their players if villa take the lead.  

I honestly wouldn’t worry about Coutiniho. I think he is here to play for Gerrard but also to be part of moving villa to the next level.

He has been at Liverpool Barca an bayern. He plays for Brazil..what would be the point of him going to an Arsenal or a Spurs etc??? What would that do for him.
 

 I think providing he performs an gerrard wants him he will be a villa player for a few years. he wants to be somewhere where he is loved like he was at Liverpool an I reckon he has every chance at villa. 
 

1 minute ago, MaVilla said:

no thanks, i think he's one of the most overrated players in the Prem.

I agree. Not a massive fan myself. Although his career has vastly exceeded what I thought he would do 

I’m just waiting till your linked with raheem Sterling. I can see that happening in the summer 

1 minute ago, TheAuthority said:

We all hate rat-faced cheating chunts. Until they are our rat-faced cheating chunts.

True. 

6 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

He's a cheating rat faced, diving, biting little wuck-fit.

But as soon as he scores a winner for Villa in front of the Holte End I will love him more than my own children and never hear a bad word said about him.

That’s what I thought until he came back to anfield an cheated like **** diving round kicking people an in 20 minutes managed to wind up a fan base that previously adored him.

the thing with Suarez is he does not give a f**k

thus is a guy who pissed off the African continent an then danced round after the game celebrating 

11 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

Ok an 18 month deal on sensible wages, why the hell not? Seriously? 

He’s made all his money and if his choice is going back to South America on 20-30k a week (at a push) or coming back to the Prem with two of his mates for 50-60k a week then why not? 

We’re not talking about a normal player here, or even a Coutinho, we’re talking about one of the best players to ever play the game. Think about our profile and how it will give the other players a boost. It may even help us lure a couple of players that would never have joined us. And then there is the effect on the younger players.

This would be incredible if it happened. This is Villa and we’ve been subjected to a really tough 10-15 years. Let’s have some fun! 

One thing I would say about Suarez is his will to win is unbelievable (like gerrard). 

Gerrard may be looking at this as a signing that will help develop the younger players etc as they all say Suarez trains the same way as he plays.(hopefully without the biting).

I don’t think there is a centre back who would enjoy playing against him. Even though he was constantly getting kicked he would always give it back.

When I have seen a few of the Gerrard interviews he clearly doesn’t think the team is aggressive enough. Digne adds a bit an Suarez defo would ha 

On 16/01/2022 at 17:42, tinker said:

He's doing ok but you can't say that performance was better than the away game at Manu in the premier with Smith at the helm, it wasn't. Unless your blind to football........

Now Gerrard has a plan to take us forward and I'm looking forward to it but let's stop trying to dismiss what Smith did within Gerrard first few games, let's give him time and judge then , if he can improve us as much as Smith did over his reign then we should be winning the league within 3 seasons , I would accept top 6. UTV 

I would suggest that there is big difference between getting a side promoted an stable in the prem to breaking into that top group. That’s why the likes of Steve Bruce an Neil Warnock have numerous promotions on their CV but don’t get near the top end of the league and/or a look in at the top jobs.

Be interesting to see if Gerrard can get you amongst the top 6. I’m sure that it will be his aim. Players like coutiniho an digne haven’t signed to be mid table an I don’t reckon gerrard has either.

The lack of patience in football is staggering at the min an must be at an all time low. Im not a villa fan but I can quite clearly see a step up in performance since Gerrard came in. The game on Saturday was so unfortunate with that early howler - an it’s so difficult to legislate for that. 

5 minutes ago, Greenfly said:

I find myself watching it every time they lose, though. I don't know why.

To be fair mate I watched this clip a good few times myself…

7 minutes ago, Greenfly said:

True, but they're comedy gold. The noses are just plain sad.

To be fair that Arsenal fan tv is just embarrassing isn’t it. 

9 minutes ago, Greenfly said:

You've clearly never met a Birmingham City fan. Can't catch a break, them lot.

Just you wait till gerrard rocks up there. They detest him….

one of my mates smashed his tele when gerrard scored a hatrick against them once an he is isn’t that bad compared to some of them. 

6 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said:

Impossible. @Laughable Chimpsaid his creative output is nonexistent these days.

 

 

Ha ha I think them 2 signings will make a big difference.
 

You need more quality from wide - I think from the right too. But I just think it will improve the forwards too as they will get more chances so won’t be snatching at things an players like coutiniho play that early pass which just kills defenders

1 hour ago, MaVilla said:

i saw one guy on the Everton forum so desperate to claim he was 29 and over the hill, saying that the normal way to ascertain someone's age is to "round age up", so if you are more than 28 and a half, you are 29......he argued it for ages too lol.

They aren’t called the bitters for nothing. Angriest bunch of fans in the country.

Trust me they are not happy with this one but trying to play it down because he not had best start to this season. But their whole season has been a nightmare an they riddled with injuries. 

Bottom line is he is one of their best players an was their main creative player last year I believe an before but they now have to try an convince themselves otherwise. 

As a liverpool fan I’m naturally delighted that Rafa is continuing to dismantle them from within

1 minute ago, a m ole said:

Thanks and yeah I agree - where Gerrard has improved us elsewhere it’s highlighted the full backs needing to be top level to play his system and we’re short of that at the moment.

They often the outlet aren’t they an need that quality. Similar to ours I suspect digne will at times get caught out of position but that is a calculated risk that most of the top clubs are willing to take now. An it will be why I suspect that the next move gerrard makes will be a holding mid who can get about the pitch an cover them when they do. (If not a right back)