JONESYVILLA

Just now, jacketspuds said:

I just hope this doesn’t drag on either way. We still have quite a bit of work to do in terms of bringing in players no matter what happens to Grealish in this window.

If Grealish goes there’s a lot more work to do before the end of August that’s for sure 

5 minutes ago, Tayls said:

This is one of the things that annoys me. He is not worth 100m, he is worth A LOT MORE. If they get him for that amount then they will be wetting themselves. The commercial potential now is mega for us. 

Keep seeing this and don’t understand why he’s now suddenly more marketable. Is it because of the Euros? If it is, let’s be honest he was well down the pecking order with Southgate and he didn’t get much game time. He certainly wasn’t one of the first names on the team sheet like Kane, Sterling, Rice or Phillips. He’s only really marketable to villa fans, and he’s doesn’t need the marketing in that area.  

Just now, Keyblade said:

Can't blame people for being suspicious because this sounds exactly like what United fans were saying last summer.

I don't know how a Villa fan who's been watching him all year could think Jack's stock will be going down this year. No offense at all mate, it just reads like something a City fan would say.

Im not a City fan and Im not saying his stock will go down, its just that it could. Its a risk and it could go up or down...its just a very good time to sell off the back of a high profile euro campaign.

3 minutes ago, Tommo_b said:

Honestly if you wanted to be more believable at least comment in some other threads and show you actually have some knowledge of what is happening at Villa.

Some of what you’ve posted just screams visiting fan with no absolute clue at all.

I post on this thread as its the most active and I worry that without Grealish we are in real trouble. My brother, Jimmy, has only seen him play live 2 times at VP and it would be nice to go with him again to make it 3.

Just now, Awol said:

You worry about what’s going to happen to your club now the courts have ordered all the information on Citeh’s finances to be handed over. Worry about that, not trolling fans of other clubs. 

I’ll be laughing my cock off when the hammer falls on the plastic palace that is Manchester City FC. 

I would be laughing too if Man Citys wheels fell off, not sure why people get wound up when someone has a different view to them.

Just now, Keyblade said:

Yeah I'd be disappointed if NSWE accepted anything in the range of the low to mid 100's. They can get that next year or even the year after.

You cash out when your assets are at their most valuable, his stock is high now off the back of a few appearances at the Euros, not so much if his shins give again.

2 hours ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said:

A 2 day old account that has exclusively posted in this thread to talk about how Grealish should move on and laughed at any idea that the club are ambitious.

 

Although Top 4 is beyond us right now, a push for Europe? Sure, but not Top 4.

Exactly, that's why I laughed. Someone believing Villa are top 4 is ridiculous, no where near compared to what is already in the top 4 or even 6, it isn't happening.

I've also not said Grealish should move on, I said the reasons why he likely would be tempted, I've not said he should. It's great to be ambitious, but be realistic with it, adding Buendia does not get top 4 and as I say, without a Grealish its far more likely the club will go the other way. The optimism is good to see in this climate but basing it all on a mediocre second season with the addition of a veteran defender that has come back for a last pay day and a newly promoted winger who's left the club that got promoted madness.

2 minutes ago, Okonokos said:

SIGH... Try and follow now...

@nick76said

Clearly meaning that since the owners came in we have improved drastically and they have the aims and means to take us to the top. We are not owned by Lerner or Xia anymore. These are serious people who know what they want and a player who is a boyhood Villa fan would want to be part of that.

But you took it literally as in the position in the table we finished....

So I tried to explain that Grealish himself has stated that the owners sold their ambitions to him and he wanted to be part of the project but you glossed over that for some reason, despite the fact that that was the whole point of the first post!

For some reason you asked me...

And gloated when I ignored that bit to address the fact that you'd completely missed the point of the discussion. Now why would you gloat like that? 

For the record, I see no reason why we can't or won't finish in the top 4 next season. See, I can answer the question.

Top 4!  Give over. 

Just now, Eastie said:

Did West Ham move up 11 places by signing lingard ?  There is more than one player in a team - many villa players improved last season and are likely to do so again - if you think villa have no chance of top 7 then that’s your choice mate 

Nowhere near Top7 , progress would be top half with Grealish. Without him and it will be a fight out with Newcastle for mediocrity.

It showed last season, no Grealish and won 5 in 16.

1 minute ago, Eastie said:

I see no reason whatsoever  why villa won’t finish above Leeds , I’d expect villa to be around top 7 , Leeds probably around 10th to 12th . 

So Leeds and 3 other teams drop down the league and Villa move up 'atleast' 4places , by signing Buendia?

1 minute ago, Okonokos said:

You missed the bit where I said that Grealish said in his own words the owners sold their ambitions to him.

End of discussion.

Ah right - so you can't answer the question then. ok fair enough.

3 minutes ago, Eastie said:

West Ham and Leeds for starters - the hammers do not have the squad for Europe and will find playing so many games tough - Leeds probably peaked under bielsa , new kids on the block , I don’t see them  being above villa next season 

Im not sold on West Ham to be fair, now they've lost Lingard but I'm not having that Leeds will have 'peaked' under Bielsa. They've got better and better each year, they were new kids on the block last season, out ran every team in the league and finished 9th with almost the same team from the championship. They're aren't suddenly gong to turn into Burnley.

Just now, Okonokos said:

He said himself he was sold on the owner's ambitions and plans for the future. That's where we are. We're in the most exciting shape for years.

Exciting shape doesnt get players trophies. Answer the question then, which of the top 10 teams are we better than? Which of those teams are suddenly going to go the other way, I've not seen any evidence that any will.

2 minutes ago, nick76 said:

So? turning his back on us where we are given he's a Villa fan is not something you do

Where are we exactly? We finished 11th, still not sure which of the top 10 teams we are suddenly better than this season.

3 minutes ago, Awol said:

In terms of the market, if a player is valued at £100M+ then they’re worth the salary that goes with that valuation. In the crazy world of football that’s easily £200k pw. 

£200k pw 

Just now, Tommo_b said:

Must be a Man City fan… or you’ve just been under a rock and not realised who we are owned by.

Come on, our most expensive signing is Buendia, other clubs are chucking huge amounts about on players. We may have lots of money but we don't chuck it around like idiots.
 

4 hours ago, AntrimBlack said:

So where have you been all this time, new boy. Did you decide after all these years you would join up and depress everyone.

Long time since I was called a boy, well in to my 60's now, there's likely only a few people that's been on the forum since the beginning so everyone is new at some point.

You're easily depressed if my post did such a thing, all I said is he likely wants European Football and we can't give him it, which bit is incorrect?
 

4 hours ago, avfc1982am said:

LOL.... 2nd post and you drop that bollox

Welcome Man City fan!!! 

Sorry I can see why it may look like that, I can assure you I am not a Manchester City. I just meant we can only do so much to convince Jack to stay, we don't have the money to throw at him like other clubs can (nor should we) and have nothing more than the prem and domestic cups. There's only so far being a fan can take you when an agent is in your ear about a big move, damn cretins.

2 minutes ago, Mazrim said:

Just signed up, and your first post is to claim that Jacks leaving and we can't match his ambition.

Forgive me if I indulge myself of a chinny reckon.

I've not claimed anything, I'm not privy to if he's going or not, I just stated that he wants to play in Europe and we didn't get in the top half last season so he will naturally be tempted.

1 minute ago, Mazrim said:

Whatever. 

Sorry , don't know what you mean. I wasn't there? 

1 minute ago, hippo said:

Thought it was at home to Hull and they kicked the crap out of him !

Pretty sure it was at Manchester, atleast Ive told people all these years it was. We lost 4 or 5 nil, can't recall as Im getting old these days.

I was actually at Jacks debut at Manchester City (strangely enough) after a hospitality invite from a client, pretty sure it was late on when he came on as I just know I was wet as it was raining like mad and angry after a defeat.

Didn't think that all these years later he would be leaving us to go there, unfortunately it looks like we can't match his ambition after he's got a taste for starring on European stage.

Well I guess this is where I say hello everyone. I've been looking at the website for some time but never joined, not sure why.

I am what would likely be described as a senior villa fan, 67 years young but still try get to games when I can (not last year mind!).

Lived in Blossomfield for 20 years before moving to Yorkshire about 10 years ago for family reasons.

Anyway, take care and here's to the new season!