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6 minutes ago, Tom13 said:

How does the new league phase work? And how are our chances of facing an elite side? E.g. Real/Bayern/PSG.

There will be 4 pots of 9 teams, ranked by the UEFA club coefficient.

Each team will be drawn against two teams in each pot, and play one of them at home and one away.

The teams in pot 1 are all what could be called elite sides, meaning we will at least playing two elite sides. 

2 minutes ago, NorthEastVillan said:

Gonna be such a long wait for this. Feels like months before Christmas.

What dates we expecting for the first matches? 

Think it was around Sept 20th this season.

44 minutes ago, nepal_villan said:

when is the UCL draw?

 

 

Can't believe I'm actually asking this! 

29th August

42 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

Same again but less teams. Might only be six if Man. United win the FA cup.

There will be 7 English teams. If ManU win the FA cup they will get a spot in the Europa League together with Spurs and 6th in the League get Conference League.

1 minute ago, MachoFantastico said:

Seeing the Spurs fan celebrating the City goals was baffling to me. It seems so petty and pathetic. I know it wasn't all Spurs fans (just a small minority) but it's a terrible look on the club. 

Let’s hope that we never get into a situation where a Villa win would hand the title to Birmingham.

13 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said:

 

What would be your favourite travel destination?

My preferences are:

Pot 1: Barcelona

Pot 2: Milan

Pot 3: Lisbon

Pot 4: Monaco

This is not based on football reason, purely on places I would like to visit.

So far so good. If Spurs fail to score in the second half too, we can celebrate. 

24 minutes ago, sidcow said:

No one is doing the job for us. 

Every team played every team. The table doesn't lie. If we qualify it's because of what we've done, not another team doing us a favour. 

We've beaten Man City. If Spurs what to finish ahead of us they've got to do the same. 

They've got to try and match what we've already done. City aren't helping us, we helped ourselves. 

You aren’t wrong, but you are writing this in most popular tread on VillaTalk at the moment, and the tread have nothing to with Villa, except it’s all about an other team doing us a favour.

On one side I would love us to do this ourself, and not rely on other teams to do the job for us. On the other hand I would like to avoid the nervous breakdown I would get, if we have to go to Crystal Palace on the last day to get a result.

For the mental health of all Villa fans, please ManC don’t lose today. 

8 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said:

You see Bailey (and others) playing though the pain barrier and then this guy going off at any given opportunity.

Levels.

Not all players are like Bert Trautmann. 
But seriously, there are different level of injuries some minor injuries would allow a player to continue to play without risking further complications. Other injuries means a player has to heal the injury before playing again. 
What is your view on Mings? Is he unprofessional and not committed to Villa since he have taken the year off?

7 hours ago, Czarnikjak said:

They are currently 7th, and likely to finish 7th. Isn't that Europe? Conference to be precise.

They will trade, they have lots of assets to sell.

How many hotels do they have?

1 hour ago, gilbertoAVFC said:

A draw doesn't really change anything other than to rule-out the goal-difference element, which is very unlikely after they stuttered past Burnley.

We have to put everything into this.

We can do it if VP is rocking.

A draw do change the following:

1. Spurs need to win both remaining matches, a draw and a win + overcome goal difference would no longer be enough.
2. We would still be at +20 goal difference, meaning Spurs still needs to improve their goal difference with 8 goals.
3. If Spurs beat ManC, an other draw against Crystal Palace could be enough to keep 4th, depending on goal difference.

But since ManC would trash Spurs, you are right our results wouldn’t change anything.

We have 3 opportunities to qualify for Champions League before the last game of the season;

Saturday: Burnley to beat Spurs

Monday: Us to beat Liverpool

Tuesday: ManC to beat Spurs, in addition if Spurs drew against Burnley an other draw against ManC will see us in 4th spot.

In addition if we draw against Liverpool, we will qualify if Spurs don’t win both matches against Burnley and ManC.

I’m pretty confident we have qualified before we play Crystal Palace.

Most likely it will be Burnley that brings us over the line, the blueprint on how to beat Spurs is now well known, giving Burnley an excellent chance to get a vital result in their relegation battle.

19 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Spurs really should be better than they are right now. It's not like they have genuine reasons to be struggling like us 

Our most used players have played 10-20 games more than the most used Spurs players, in that sense you are right.

However, Spurs play a high intensity tactic with a high press, while we have a more low/medium intensity tactic.

The result seems to be that both set of players are burned out at this stage in the season.

Next season with Spurs in Europe, their players will be burned out at an earlier stage in the season, expect them to be mid table.

We need to recruit well in the summer, because it is not sustainable that our best players play 50+ matches in a season. Both because burn out at the end of the season and also to avoid injuries because of fatigue and tiredness. 

1 minute ago, Zero7 said:

My 12 year old daughter just said ‘I never wound have dreamt we would be competing for 4th and a CL place in my lifetime’ - chill and enjoy the journey 

If you chill and don’t care about the outcome, how do you get any enjoyment out of the journey?

Can Spurs even beat Burnley? It could be all over by the time we play Liverpool.

2 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

But we bottled it though if you believe certain accounts on here.

I guess Opta think there is a 90% chance Spurs will bottle it too.

6 minutes ago, grobs said:

Barring a massive goal difference swing they are down 

Not really, they need to win their last two, and Nottingham loses their last to go one point clear of Nottingham.

7 minutes ago, Nabby said:

Funny how when your tied mentally and physically how that happens.

Our best players have played about 10 more matches than ManC best players this season. That is one of the reason our form have dropped off lately, while ManC is better late in the season than in the start.

we need a larger and better squad for next season, and some luck when it comes to injuries. 

Rumours have it that ManU and Bayer Munich will swap managers, ten Hag to Munich and Tuchel to Manchester.

I would love it to happen, but if it does happen, whoever is in charge at the two clubs needs their head examined. 

4 hours ago, ben1505 said:

United might get no European football.. I for one would be sad… no, not sad… the other one… happy 

Good news, one of ManU, Newcastle and Chelsea will not get European football next season. Bad news two of them will. 2/3 sad, 1/3 happy.

46 minutes ago, nick76 said:

Kieran Maguire the financial football expert on Talksport said it’s 70% of your revenue if you are in Europe and 85% not in Europe up to the maximum of that anchoring amount whatever figure that would be.  So we (Villa) would only have maximum of 70% of our revenue.

Essentially you can spend the lower of either the 70/85% of revenue or the anchor amount….not the higher of either as many reported.

Thats what I got from the Maguire bloke anyway, so I assume that’s true.  So only if you are earning well over the half a billion in revenue will you be affected by the anchor rule.

So i assume that’s why we voted no because us getting Champions League this season or any European football means we get hindered because our low revenue compared to the Sky6 teams.  So we need Champions League (any Europe) to help increase our revenues and appeal to new fans and their money and thus sponsorships but it also hinders us.  Hopefully the club can generate more commercial revenue because i want regular European football season after season and we are strong favourites for CL this season if we can get over the line.

I don’t understand why we voted no. The vote was only about the anchoring, not the 70%/85% since those are UEFA rules. The anchoring would not make a difference against the top six, we would still have the low revenue. Actually it would help against ManU and ManC, since they are the only two teams that would have to limit their spending because of anchoring, since they have that high revenue.

Originally it was reported on Sky that we were against it because teams in Premier League not in Europe could spend £466 mill, while we could only spend 70% of revenue. That would have made sense, except it isn’t true, or maybe even the club misunderstood the rules.

The more I learn about this, the more baffling is the position of the club on this. It simply make no sense to vote no for Aston Villa. We are years and years away to be able to get a revenue that would limit our spending because of anchoring. 

16 minutes ago, NorthEastVillan said:

With all this talk of CL qualification how do you see the recently announced spending cap will effect us due to our recent success? 

Obviously not to come in until 25/26 but, if we're an established CL side by then (or at least a regular in Europe) our spending is capped at 70% our overall club revenue.

You've then got the "Anchoring" limit of 4.5x the bottom club's TV revenue (currently would be £466m).

I'm guessing CL will increase our revenue by a fair bit, but at the minute we're not really one of the clubs who have a great amount of revenue coming in. 

There are two caps on squad cost, the UEFA cap that say cost of the squad have to be 70% of revenue and the Premier League cap that says the squad cost have to be limited to £466mill.

Our current revenue is around £200mill, meaning we can spend £140mill on the squad. While other Premier League team that haven’t qualified for Europe can spend £466mill. To be able to spend as much as the rest of the Premier League teams we have to raise our revenue to £665mill.

6 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said:

It was. It was Europe's 2nd competition for many years, with the last final being played at Villa Park.

If it was introduced today, people would belittle it just like they have the ECL.

Back in the days before Champions League, there were three cups:

European cup - for League winners only

Cup winners cup - for Cup winners only

UEFA cup - for losers.

Of course the cup winners cup was more prestigious than the UEFA cup, after all it was for teams that had won something. Also the winner of the cup winners cup qualified for the European super cup.

What we have now is:

Champions League: top teams in the top European leagues

Europa League: a mix of not so top teams from top European leagues, top teams from weaker European Leagues.

Conference League: the rest

8 minutes ago, ender4 said:

24 out of 32 teams get through the mega-group stage next season.  Only the 8 worst teams get knocked out, and most of those will be teams who have gone through qualifying rounds to even get to the group stage.

Id expect us to get through to the play-off round.

Actually there are 36 teams, so 12 teams get knocked out.

Top 8 teams go directly into round of 16, where they are seeded. Teams 9 to 16 are drawn against teams 17 to 24 in a qualifying round before the winners are drawn against the top 8 teams.

I believe we could manage get into the top 16, that provides a good chance to get into the round of 16.