PerryBarrPet

39 minutes ago, MotoMkali said:

Left footed forward? Sounds like Villa

Yes, but we’ve got two of those already. 

1 hour ago, Ingers said:

Claret lion (new one!) on blue back ground, gold trim, or

Gold Lion on Claret with significant blue....

otherwise we don't represent claret n blue, look like West Ham's Badge, or even Bradford's.

If we are about building a 'brand' we need to brand ourselves claret and blue - we are the original ( and currently best) Claret and (light) Blue team in Europe/World? - if we are to honour our rich history and fans, whilst trying to build a new bigger global fan base/customer base - it HAS to say Claret and Blue (with the gold for detail, depth etc. as needed)

Yellow or Gold on light blue is a disaster and will need addressing again in a few years.  

The badge is used so often away from the shirt, in graphics, TV, websites, papers, documents, other merchandise - it has to be predominantly claret and blue, with a rampant lion or its not Aston Villa.

 

@PerryBarrPet - the city of birmingham crest badge was only a bit of fun, and one of many I knocked up - but I didn't really think we should adopt it!  (I'd take it over the leaked one, but there are so many other good ones on here)

 

 

I agree on the Birmingham crest but another poster seemed to be serious about it (might have been an elaborate piss-take) but I could not let it pass.

50 minutes ago, fruitvilla said:

I have no problem with a lion especially a rampant contourné one. Why an element of the City of Birmingham crest?

1. Aston Villa is in Birmingham and a proud part of its history. cf moving a new stadium Solihull?
2. Without the City of Birmingham there probably would be no AVFC. Maybe an Aston City or Town.
3. Those elements have been part of Villa's tradition for a long time.
4. It would piss off Blues fans no-end. They can't be bothered to have elements of their supposed City on their crest.

Not really ... your preferences are clear.

No. Our original crest does not need the enhancements you prefer.

1. Yes Aston Villa is in Birmingham and Birmingham takes pride in this but this history is Aston Villa’s not Birmingham’s.

2.  No. You have a right to your opinion but to suggest that AVFC owes its existence to there being a City of Birmingham has, in my opinion, no foundation other than this area had a growing industrial population at that time. After all Aston has an older history than Birmingham which only gained city status in 1889, 15 years after Villa was founded.

3. Villa has a long proud tradition which owes little if anything to the fact that Aston is now in Birmingham. Our history is built on sporting tradition not being part of a large conurbation.

4. Not the slightest bit interested in what Blues fans might think. With any luck next season we will be going to the Bernabeu while they will be going to Burton. Why on earth would we want to modify our proud historic crest just to play puerile games with them?

So your views are not mine but so what: we have to wait to see Heck’s final offering.

12 minutes ago, fruitvilla said:

You have me beat ... my first Villa game in 1960,

Legend has it, it was 1956.

This assertion makes absolutely no sense to me ... having spent all my formative years in Brum and supporting Villa.

Also by your logic, the lion should to sinister or contourné, which I have no problem with and have suggested a few times.

My logic is clear: Lion Rampant as we had originally with Aston Villa and 1874 if we must. There are times when an approach of never mentioned but never forgotten has a class of its own.

Also since the 1960’s we have used the lion so why your lurch to include Birmingham in our identity?

7 minutes ago, fruitvilla said:

I must admit I find this a peculiar perspective bearing in mind Villa's crest appeared to be this this for seventy years. 

 

I know all this. I’ve been a Villa fan for over 70 years. This particular crest was the second, being used in 1886 following from the original Lion Rampant. By the early 50’s when I started going to Villa Park the crest had reverted to a lion in a shield and a lion it has been ever since with, from time to time, the words ‘Prepared’ or ‘Aston Villa’ being included. In fact if you look at old pictures of our team that won the league in 1899 you will see they had no crest on their shirt so given our history and original crest we should have a lion with no reference - however subtle - to Birmingham.

7 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

Is Fanny still my Aunt?

No she has balls so must be your uncle.

2 hours ago, fruitvilla said:

This is worth it just to piss off the Blues fans.

For me Aston is in the city of Birmingham but it stands apart and above Birmingham in football terms. Any connection, suggestion or allusion regarding Birmingham just contaminates our name.

2 minutes ago, Xela said:

Can't see anything about Spurs top 4 homes being 'dented' on the BBC website?! 

Don’t hold your breath.

Just now, StewieGriffin said:

Goal difference getting bigger too...

Yes and I think their two games in hand are Chelsea away and Man City home. Spurs won’t get much joy out of these. UTV

44 minutes ago, sne said:

Busy time of the year for him. Villa fighting for a CL-spot and a title in Europe while his Milwaukee Bucks are playing in the NBA play offs. Good thing he can work on the fly considering these are not his only projects.

I think his sports involvements are hobby/interest projects, the infrastructure projects and financial investment are his everyday business. It seems that Nasef is more hands on at Villa.

1 minute ago, stewiek2 said:

Hmm who owns CNBC? Oh look a division of our new Atairos buddies Comcast.

Wheels within wheels. Comcast own SKY so expect changes here soon.

6 minutes ago, tinker said:

FucX spurs, I'm more worried about manure catching us 

Right now they couldn’t catch a cold. 

51 minutes ago, RicRic said:

Calling it here first, Spurs will beat Man City on the final day and this will hand Arsenal the title (Spurs record against City is excellent), they will also win either chelsea or arsenal game, they will too beat Sheff Utd and draw against Burnley, thats 10 pts secured, we will only need to win 2 more matches and find ourselves on 72 points and that i feel will ultimately be enough, 4 points is risky imo as they could also beat burnley too.

We all seem to be underestimating spurs based on fixtures but anything can happen in any of those games for example look at what we did at Arsenal, guys it is far from over and we cant get complacent at this stage we have to be weary and realistic and just try to win every match.

UTV!! 

Did you read this on the ‘Cock gobbler’ forum?

4 minutes ago, John said:

I think that we might actually already have enough points for 4th.....

Among their remaining 6 games, Spurs face Chelsea (a), Manchester City (h), Arsenal (h) & Liverpool (a). They won't start as favourites to win any of those games and their goal difference might also take the odd hit in some of those games, that couldn't easily be compensated in their other 2 matches. They are clear favourites against Burnley (h) & Sheffield United (a), but that only brings them up to 66 points. I could see them not taking a point from those other 4 games and I struggle to see them getting more than 2 points from them.

That would leave us needing just 2 points from our remaining 4 games. A win against Chelsea next weekend would deflate Spurs and they would then need 4 points from those 4 games, assuming they win their other 2, I think that would be a very big ask. That said, I still think we might just have enough points and 2 more, would provide us with some insurance, against Spurs getting the odd unexpected point.     

This. But we must not be complacent: all is not done until the fat lady has sung.

1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Don’t they own Sky too?

I think Comcast has owned SKY since October 2018. Comcast is a huge operation just Google it and see just how big.

28 minutes ago, sidcow said:

It's utter genius. The best way around FFP and totally full proof. 

You bank the £150m sales money straight into this year's accounts and spread the £150m acquisition money over the course of his contract. 

If things start to get sticky next year just sell him to yourselves again. 

It's a win win situation. 

Is this an ‘inverted Ponzi’ scheme?

32 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said:

Oh I dunno, Edgar Davids wasn't a bad player. None out of Mascherano, Deschamps, Dunga, Makelele and Matthaus were more than 5'9"

Not that I know the lad from Cov or have an opinion on him, but there have been some truly great DMC's that were about the same height.

For those old enough to remember Dave MacKay was 5’8” and feared no one.

32 minutes ago, MSvillain said:

Acceleration 20, Pace 20, Strength 20, Crossing 4

Football brain 1

28 minutes ago, allani said:

Their business reach extends well beyond just the TV side but all with similar connections with sports marketing.  So there could be more than just as TV deal.  And it will be hard to argue that it is not "justified" because they are all part of their core business and they'll have a whole heap of US based equivalent deals that they can use as a basis when breaking into the European market.

Agreed. Do you think the full import of Comcast involvement is being reserved depending on CL qualification?

Just now, allani said:

Hopefully Comcast become our more legitimate equivalent.

Yes, a swift £100m for the pleasure of running Villa TV and our problems are resolved!

19 minutes ago, andycv said:

Other than the club crest and c@ck s!cking, what else was on the agenda?

Heck’s button mushroom ?

1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

This is what I was thinking.

Do we know what impact the Comcast involvement will have? 

17 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said:

The league cup winner was a screamer.

RIP to a Villa legend.

Yes, what a night. Listening to the Everton fans singing “we all agree Everton are tragic …. tragic, tragic, tragic ……….. tragic.”

15 minutes ago, RicRic said:

Dont know where else to put it mate but as i said if you READ it all, to make sure we have a team that stops this woeful record against these sides for years to come because it’s sickening.

We all know we have woeful record full stop. IMO we should look forward by debating ideas on players, tactics etc.. None of us should need reminding of past failings.

13 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said:

I’m playing catch up could anyone enlighten me as to what’s going on/ been said?

Best thing to do is to read the thread - not very helpful I’m afraid. Basically lots of negative speculation around Heck’s behaviour but little, if any, real proof.