SikhInTrinity

I would imagine whilst he was watching the game yesterday Garde had the same views that many others (like myself) have regarding fitness. They just aren't fit enough to close down and win the ball back. Would not surprise me if we he went through a pre-season regime, he did it last time he was here in March and in my opinion it paid off.

Is that definitely his page though? As he was liking comments saying Sherwood should be sacked etc

I'd say the sudden enormity of the challenge was there for all to see, written all over his face last night. And more than one of our players days as Villa players may well be numbered.

Good luck, Remi, but I imagine 12mths down the line this team may bear no resemblance to the one plodding aimlessly sround WHL last night.

In my opinion, im not sure how much KMAC did wrong.  Im not sure the lads who were on the bench could really argue that they've done much to warrant being in the team, afterall, the majority of the summer signings have played a lot of the games this season and been a major factor in why were bottom of the league............... are they as good as we think they are??  Have we bought a load of duds and Sherwood and his Crew realise that?

I don't now im just playing devils advocate

But I do know that the talk of Conspiracy Theories is a right load of old bollocks.   Professional Pride takes over and if you've got players their that would make a significant difference to the team with the aim of getting a result, then the manager will pick said options.  There is no way theyd "chuck a result" just to prove a point and alienate players in the squad, it just makes no sense at all.  In my opinion there wasn't masses on the bench that was crying out "I should be in this team"   

I hear the cries for Gil.  Yeah he looks neat and tidy, but hes been with us nearly a year and still not forced his way into the worst team weve had in 25 years.  Same goes for the other new lads.

If you listen to the fanbase weve got "great" players in Gil, Veretout, Gana, Sanchez, Amavi, Illori, Ayew, Traore etc.......................... fact is, they cant be as the bulk of our team on that basis is quality, but yet most cant get in, and were bottom of the league.   This is the most damning verdict for me.  Conspiracy theories is a load of old bollocks.  The players not being as good as we think.  Most definitely

Let's take performances, for e.g. Ayew scores against Swansea, comes on against Soton wins a penalty, then comes on yesterday and scores. If KMac was in charge for weekend, you'd bet a pound to think Ayew would not start considering the past evidence. We have all said it numerous times here, Westwood and Sanchez together as a pair do not work, they never have and never will but yet we continue. Richardson is arguably the worst left back the club has ever seen yet we leave the one we spent just over 8million on, on the bench. Adama, it's no coincidence since his comment on FB about only being given 5mins, that he's been dropped completely. The most bizarre of all is that the a player who is probably the fittest we have is deemed fatigued considering he had 9 days rest. A coincidence that the only player used by KMac yesterday which we'd purchased in the summer was Lescott, so that's nearly 50 odd million worth of talent that is just sitting there. We can sit there and say they are not good enough, but have they really been given a chance, look at Ayew, everyone said he's shit, waste of money, bought the wrong Ayew, a few games and look how much he's putting in. We have been grossly mismanaged and for me KMac and Tony Parkes should be sacked as soon as possible if they truly think that was the best team available to them last night. That was a team picked for their pal Tim Sherwood and not for the interests of Aston Villa.

What's this comment from Traore on Facebook?

What were you expecting.

A bit of fight. You don't need a super duper manager to show that. 

Agreed, it's not the time to make excuses for poor performances. Outside of a 10 minute spell in the second half there was no fight and no desire. 10 minutes of it simply isn't good enough, pretty much every team in danger of relegation are capable of 10 minutes of fight against top half sides, it's just not enough.

People need to realise that the points have to come from somewhere and given we've already blown it against a number of poor sides so far, we're actually now going to have to take our fair share against teams in the top half. I hope we're not going to have excuses made for every time we lose against someone half decent, else we'll be excusing our way into the championship.  

I think fight would have been shown had they still been in the game, the goal after 2mins knocked the stuffing out of them due to ineptness on the line up picked and the actual players.

Then that just goes to show that they are mentally weak, and frankly as fans we should hold them to a higher standard. If Leicester were as mentally weak as us they would have like half the points at this stage than they actually have.

 

It's just not good enough. 

What were you expecting.

A bit of fight. You don't need a super duper manager to show that. 

Agreed, it's not the time to make excuses for poor performances. Outside of a 10 minute spell in the second half there was no fight and no desire. 10 minutes of it simply isn't good enough, pretty much every team in danger of relegation are capable of 10 minutes of fight against top half sides, it's just not enough.

People need to realise that the points have to come from somewhere and given we've already blown it against a number of poor sides so far, we're actually now going to have to take our fair share against teams in the top half. I hope we're not going to have excuses made for every time we lose against someone half decent, else we'll be excusing our way into the championship.  

Feeling positive about this appointment. At the same time I am not as positive about staying up - but I know we will give it a good go. At fault for relegation are Fox, Lerner and Tactics Tim.

The players wouldn't take any blame? You can't blame Fox, Sherwood and Lerner for Guzan kicking the ball straight to opposition!

I agree but what you can blame Tim for is, dropping Guzan, making it known he's looking for a new No1, signing an incapable No2 to challenge Guzan, then not signing a No1 and then telling Guzan he's No1. It's not very good management, no wonder his confidence is shot, on top of that I don't even rate Guzan as Stevo will point out to you.

I agree with that - but surely in spite of what you are saying - there has be a minimum standard you expect from a player even with low confidence. Some of our individual errors this year have been ridiculous. I don't think the players can escape blame, and I don't just mean Lescott.

Feeling positive about this appointment. At the same time I am not as positive about staying up - but I know we will give it a good go. At fault for relegation are Fox, Lerner and Tactics Tim.

The players wouldn't take any blame? You can't blame Fox, Sherwood and Lerner for Guzan kicking the ball straight to opposition!

So has Remy Gard signed yet?

Do you think he will save us, Rich? Are you happy about this appointment or do you think we should have gone for someone with more managerial perhaps?

It's a tough ask for anybody. Can he secure premier league survival? maybe the odds are not in his favour given : the upcoming run of games,  the new players not used to the league or a relegation battle,  the position we are in meaning we are still in the bottom three even if we win one or two on the bounce, the fact that he is not used to the club or the league in terms of management.  I'm not dissing the "lack of experience" thing or saying we needed someone with more hours under his managerial belt ( I think Allardayce would have kept us up by the way) because to be honest there is a difference between just keeping us up and basically putting in place something to reverse the tide and make sure we dont have these battles for a few years yet.  Sherwood was not capable of either,  Allardyce may have been capable of one but not the other, Moyes may have been capable of both to limited degree,  this chap may be able to do the latter but not the former,  who knows in reality.

For me it is not just about staying up this year it is in sorting out the complete and utter mess and shambles we as a club have become and that may actually take relegation to do.  So we may actually still go down this year and he sort it out once and for all.  My fear was / is we are going down and stay down for a while.  I'm not sure whether he can or is able to sort it out long term but that's what I want out of him,  out of any manager of Villa.  It's a case of suck it and see with him as it would be any bloke to varying degrees.  But Im not focussed too much on relegation this season as I've accepted it anyway.

My post was in response to DrP's "he hasn't shown anything". I'm not going into who he's better than, but he has made one or two really astonishing passes.

I don't remember those, pretty much all of his passes have been safe ones.

Another name may make the press late tonight or tomorrow, not my choice but only cause odds have gone to equivalent of 5/1 dick advocaat.