Cule4life

How some people's views change again once a fair result comes about...

Fickle springs to mind.

TBH im passed caring about the whole MCleish thing simply because Villa survived but not through their own skill but mainly because other teams are so inept.

I was out last night, the game was on. Did i watch it ? DID I ****

People with Barca's badges as their avatar should be taken out the back & shot

Jealousy is an awful thing to have didn't you learn to leave all that bad feeling at home ?

Anyway were talking about Villa/BCFC

who is talking about BCFC except you

Thing is it's like Barca and Real Madrid us as fans always argue who is the biggest and i guess its the same with Villa and BCFC who is the biggest ? Because right now i,d say BCFC and Villa are about equal.

Why are you even here?

Because i do go to V.P when im in the UK although the last time i went was because MON was in charge i have not been since as ive been travelling.

I do like Villa but like many other fan's I have lost a little bit of interest since the whole Houllier/MCleish thing.

The failure to get into the CL was criminal given the resources made available

Ridiculous statement.

Not really, think of all the times we were in a cracking position,

"If Villa win this they will be 4 points clear of 5th" and the like......

Oh dear bottled it again and again, when it was realised the house of straw was not sufficient he left.

If people don't see it then I can't help that, that's not my problem but that's the good thing about history, it's kind of set in stone.

Yeah a bit like when it was us and Arsenal for 4th.. We made our intentions perfectly by signing Heskey and Arsenal went for Arshavin. Now i know he turned out crap but his first season he was pretty good and that move summed up Villa perfectly at the time.

People with Barca's badges as their avatar should be taken out the back & shot

Jealousy is an awful thing to have didn't you learn to leave all that bad feeling at home ?

Anyway were talking about Villa/BCFC

who is talking about BCFC except you

Thing is it's like Barca and Real Madrid us as fans always argue who is the biggest and i guess its the same with Villa and BCFC who is the biggest ? Because right now i,d say BCFC and Villa are about equal.

I mean managerial wise BCFC and Villa are about equal as MCleish is very poor along with Lerner and his P.A. Squad wise ok villa just about edge that but my guess is within a year or two years Villa will be relegated as the squad isn't good enough which has been evident this season. You only have to look at the points tally, the table does not lie. Chances are Bent will be off in the summer and maybe the likes of Ireland to and then what ? Im pretty sure there is no millions coming from Randy to provide equal or better quality. And can you see any names even wanting to sign for MCleish anyway ? I THINK NOT !!

Bannan was far more effective when he came on than Ireland

I can't agree with that. I thought Ireland was our best attacking player by a long chalk on Saturday (gave motm to Herd though).

Agreed !

I think that the manager hasn't helped his situation and i cant blame Ireland for being pissed off with it as we could tell with the F.U.

He was quality at City and hasn't been half the player since then.

I bet Ireland seems puzzled with half of MClueless's decisions like the day he dropped Zog and Ireland despite him saying he didn't have a problem with them. In term's of attacking threat after dropping those two didn't be bring on Heskey and who was the other one again ? Im sure our opposition were trembling at the thought !

Always liked Gabby as he is Villa at heart and i hope to god he's not sold but after this season and the last you couldn't really blame him if he did. Every player reaches a crossroads its where Van Persie is right now at Arsenal. I however DO NOT think he is worth more than Darren Bent i reckon around 8 - 12m Max.

People with Barca's badges as their avatar should be taken out the back & shot

Jealousy is an awful thing to have didn't you learn to leave all that bad feeling at home ?

Anyway were talking about Villa/BCFC

who is talking about BCFC except you

Thing is it's like Barca and Real Madrid us as fans always argue who is the biggest and i guess its the same with Villa and BCFC who is the biggest ? Because right now i,d say BCFC and Villa are about equal.

People with Barca's badges as their avatar should be taken out the back & shot

Rather inappropriate comment....

THIS ! He merely aim's at being personal once he realises that his arguement has become boring.

Honestly when people start being personal about thing's do you not realise how retarded it makes you look ?

I don't think ive ever posted on any website about opposition fans being shot etc.

Brendan Rodgers is the man for us - Leaner should go for him.

This is the sort of shit a lot of us are getting fed up of reading. The grass is always greener. What on earth has he done in the game ? C

Just back the man we have FFS

Brendan Rodgers is clearly a better manager than McLeish.

Anyway, you were very much against McLeish not long ago. Why the sudden change of heart?

Because he's backing up my statement i made a few pages ago on this thread. It's also the same statement O Leary come out with before he was rightfully sacked. But the one valid point he did make whilst he was at Villa was "Fickle"

Drama.

Have you noticed its's as soon as you mention the word 'fickle' ?

Truth hurt's some people but my god have I seen quite a few fickle one's around here.

So close again.

Bien hecho Houston, usted hombre grande en el campus superstar.

I applaud those who are paying to watch the McLeish brand of football for another season

Id rather shoot myself in the eyes with a nail gun

Enjoy the free flowing Dutch attacking football down the wings with the aussie bosman and steven davis in the middle when he signs in the summer

I refuse to pay for torture which is exactly what watching the McLeish brand of football is if i were into pain id hire a dominatrix not pay for an AVFC season ticket under the current regime

Proud history bright future

THIS !! My feeling's exactly.

People with Barca's badges as their avatar should be taken out the back & shot

Jealousy is an awful thing to have didn't you learn to leave all that bad feeling at home ?

Anyway were talking about Villa/BCFC

Drama.

Have you noticed its's as soon as you mention the word 'fickle' ?

Truth hurt's some people but my god have I seen quite a few fickle one's around here.

I stopped reading after a quarter of it ! WHY >?

Presumably because you found the correct use of spelling and grammar confusing and gave up.

Sorry I didn't realise one of the main rule's around here was to use the correct grammar and spelling for everything we post.

the success of Barca was irrelevant to the point Gareth was making about you being a football snob on AZ/Eredivisie

LOL ok well when a majority are moaning next year then i,ll remember this conversation.

I will also remind the fickle one's who slag MCleish one minute and the next want him to stay on.

he plays for AZ Alkmaar for a reason and its not because he's good or class or world class its the complete opposite.

What about Rasmus Elm, hmm? Adam Maher's looking quite the talent. Pontus Wernbloom got snapped up by CSKA Moscow. Even Beerens and Moisander could probably do a decent job at a higher level.

Going back further, let's see; you've got Stijn Schaars, he got snapped up by Sporting Libson. Sigthórsson won himself a move to Ajax. Héctor Moreno moved to Espanyol where's he's doing a decent job. Romero, the Argentine national #1 was at AZ last year. Further back still there was Jeremain Lens (now at PSV), Dembélé at Fulham and El Hamdaoui who also went to Ajax.

Joris Mathijsen made a name for himself at AZ, they were Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink's second ever club, oh but my favourite one (and you'll like this); one Phillip Cocu came through the youth ranks at AZ. They were his first professional club.

In summary; stop talking pork.

isnt 'Cule' the French word for 'arse'? tells you all you need to know...

It's also a nickname for Barca fans to. And last time i checked (I know its only been in the last 5 years) But were doing pretty well

and if im honest i suppose it does come down to the fact its a typical MCleish signing. Im sick to death of MCleish even his face pisses me off when ever i read a topic about him.

I don't care what anyone says its only downhill from here and there is a lot of people here who are fickle simply because people want him sacked one minute then because of a fluke win its oh we don't mind him now and give him a chance etc.

Fantastic article in the Birmingham Mail

I stopped reading after a quarter of it ! WHY >? Because he talks like a top 6 finish isnt good enough. Compare MON to MCleish ? He's having a lugh considering the mess MCleish has put us under again hanging around the relegation zone which is why Villa will be there again next season.

I am not getting embroiled in this farcical debate again but to try and find reasons why McLeish is suitable for this club is like trying to find reasons to have Bashar Al-Assad as a UN envoy.

For all the ridiculous clinging to positives there are a plethora of facts to the contrary.

For all the constantly repeated questions for the defence, there are reasoned arguments that are conveniently ignored again and again.

For every pro McLeish advocate there are a hundred against.

For every extremist argument you ridicule, there are tens of people trying to give you a sound debate.

The fact of the matter is, you dont have a leg to stand on. McLeish is not the right man for the job, nor has he given any indication that he ever will be.

It doesnt matter how long or how pleadingly you make your case, you know that deep down the sooner McLeish goes the better.

100% THIS !!

And one last thing i thought i would add: I don't give a shit if he's from SHA or what not.

Its the fact I know he's a shit manager and always will be a shit manager.

You don't get many of his ex players singing his praises but you do get them slagging his playing style off.

Its the same playing style that will see players want out of this club and the same that will see Villa rightfully relegated.

Because the football we play is of that quality.

Here is another exciting angle ..........

As is mentioned in other posts we had something like 46 shots and only scored 2 goals, that tells me one thing.

Mc Clueless has changed the players mindset already,you cant blame them, after playing his brand of football for 8 months what else can you expect ?!

Thats why we had 44 misses and only 2 goals ..........the team know how to run up and down the park but they have lost the killer punch playing under Mickey Mouse McLeish :!:

THIS !!!! The one human being i feel sorry for is Hleb. Good god that poor guy came from Barcelona only to have to put up with MCleish's shit at BCFC.

Under MCleish the football will always be boring and the signings will make you yawn.

I love how people around here change their tune after a VERY VERY VERY fortunate win which if im honest Villa didn't deserve to win. But now its ok because we have won a game when really MCleish should have gone 5 games ago but because Lerner has spunked loads on crap which he has had to pay off we can't afford to.

THE FUTURES BRIGHT THE FUTURES THE CHAMPIONSHIP

Your only pissed off with this signing because it was Alex McLeish who signed him.

Well said and you've got to the root of the real issue with that comment.

Facts are Holman looks a decent player who has experience of International football, CL and is currently playing for a team who has a very good chance of winning their domestic league trophy. This could very well be quite an astute signing indeed.

Yeah i know it kinda reminds me of the ZIDANE we signed from Togo to !! GOOD ONE

I cant wait to see the starting 11 next season with signings like this coming in.

he plays for AZ Alkmaar for a reason and its not because he's good or class or world class its the complete opposite.

End of the day you can expect plenty more signings like this under AMC and Lerner.

Not only that but its not quite a free though is it because it still goes onto a wage bill and its a supposed wage bill we don't have.

50 international caps?

Didn't salifou have international caps? Playing for Australia is hardly the pinnacle of international football.

Australia are a decent side to compare them with Togo is quite absurd and ignorant

He may be alright but it's highly unlikely he's going to be a top premiership player

was a Bosman. Were you expecting Ronaldo or Messi?

Agree with both points by Zatman here. Australia are actually quite decent at the international stage. Like a slightly lesser version of USA when it comes to "soccer". As said, to compare Australia to Togo is pretty ignorant. I'd welcome Jefferson Farfan too, but he's only got int'l appearances for a backwater S.American country..

Blimey put your tin hat on !!

And one last thing i thought i would add: I don't give a shit if he's from SHA or what not.

Its the fact I know he's a shit manager and always will be a shit manager.

You don't get many of his ex players singing his praises but you do get them slagging his playing style off.

Its the same playing style that will see players want out of this club and the same that will see Villa rightfully relegated.

Because the football we play is of that quality.

MCleish would take any job when your getting paid much more than the previous. I wish people would stop saying shit like "oh he's got the balls to take the job on" ITS ALL ABOUT **** MONEY AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF FOOTBALL TO"

Honestly if anyone is happy with the way

Honestly if anyone is happy with the way things are at Villa then they need to put down there meth pipe's.

Thats not the point is it? Nobody is saying they are happy! The point some posters trying to make is that the criticism of AML is onesided and just trying to prove a point(that you hate him). And just post info and stats that prove you're point and leaving out facts that doesn't suit you're agenda.

And I think the reasons are:

A. You think that the appoinment was totally underwelming (I agree).

B. His last club was sha.

C. You actually thought there was a chance Ancelotti was signing (and said Benitez was not godo enough LOL).

The fact is nobody wanted the job because there was nog money available for transfers and with an overpaid useless squad that nobody wants to touch with barge pole AND a wage budget problem from hell.

I'm no fan what so ever but at least he had the balls to take job under the circumstances given to him.

I'm sure the huge increase in wages was the clincher over the size of his balls!

THIS !!! It wouldnt matter what the circumstances were if your being paid millions a year to do it.