WhenSaturdayComes

Do you reckon we will sell out?

Definately. Its one of the games that ive been looking forward to 8)

Yep. Never been before, do they hate us like the blues do?! Not living in the area i don't know any Wolves fans.

Consider yourself lucky on both counts

Was he not injured? Something muscular.

Nope. Brother was murdered. He's on compassionate leave.

Expected to be back in contention for SHA but O'Neill will almost certainly start with Beye.

I wouldn't put it past those Small Heath fuckheads to try get a 1up on him by saying something during the game. **** scum.

I would not consider him for that reason alone.

Now Dunnes finally signed, can i change my vote?

Well this wasnt suppose to turn into a slag MON of fest lol. The only mistakes he is making is playing Heskey and playing a 4-4-2. If we play 4-5-1 and drops Heskey the man will be a genius again, if he continues with Heskey and plays 4-4-2 he is going to fail. Come on MON, we know you can see it, your just being too loyal to Petrov and Heskey, and too stubborn towards us fans. Do what we all know is right......................take Heskey off to the quarry for a little chat and do what you gotta do...

4-4-2 worked last night. The only failure was that we never took the lard off for NRC at two-nil, reverting to 4-5-1.

The mere fact that 91% of us thinks he a waste of lard, means Martin will just continue to pick him.

ST holder in Lower North, with some away games chucked in.

Got so disillusioned under Doug, so started stopping away more and more, that i couldent be bothered by the end of DoLS tenancy.

But im back in the fold, and here to stay.........and believe it or not, feel quite happy about the direction in which we are heading.

4-5-1 away from home, and proberly against the better teams at home, where we have to keep it tight.

General Krulak here:

7. WhenSaturdayComes: No, unfortunately, I have gone into combat woefully understrength and without all the support I have needed. Some of my Marines would have just joined my outfit and I would have zero opportunity to train them...I accepted them as they came to me. Underequipped was the name of the game in VietNam as was an ill-defined mission. EVERY SINGLE DAY my Marines put on their helmets and flak jackets, grabbed their weapons, and went out into the jungles. At no time did any of them bemoan the fact that they didn't have all that they should have had...they just did what needed to be done. The Fans (the American People), influenced by a negative media, lost confidence in THEIR Military and stopped supporting the troops. It basically took 40 years for the US military to fully recover. Bringing this up to today: Support from the Fans is critical...we can moan and rant all we want but...support is critical.

Totally agree General. I think you will find that most peeps gripes are around squad strength, and see the results from Feb to now a result of that, and those results do bare that out.. Its certainly knocked a lot of confidence out of a lot of people regarding the Manager, but you can rest assured that you and Randy still have our overwhelming backing.

All the best General, and thanks for the reply.

A rousing reply General.

At the start of any campaign, you make sure that the grunts under your command whom have to carry the mission, are prepared and properly equipped to carry out the tasks set. Poor preperation, insufficent strength in key offensive and reserve areas, and troops being asked to operate in roles they are not used to, would (im sure General), have had you fuming and demanding that the right resources ARE in place, or risk high losses, and defeat due to a likely drop in morale.

OK, the military is about life and death, and even sacrifice. But the ethics of preparation and being equipped properly hold true in other walks of life, including sport.

Is Randy enforcing these basic facts onto his commander in the field, as you would of done during your military service?

General, can you send a copy of Pilchards post to Martin?

I would like him to read it.

Well said Pilchard mate, youve spoke for a lot of us.

I dont like these polls, but ive just voted for him to stay. But its cutting it very fine.

You've chosen the correct option, I'm proud of you!!

Upa da Villao

To old and long in the tooth

Been here before on SOoooOO many occasions, and fans are fickle because Football is a fickle game 8)

I dont like these polls, but ive just voted for him to stay. But its cutting it very fine.

If he drops his stubborness and learns from his mistakes, delivers the three quality reinforcements we seriously need, then i can see us riding this out, and becoming better because of it.

Dispite my worries, i think we would make a monumental mistake getting rid at this time.

Im more worried of whats going on behind the scenes. Seems to me that Randy has his sandbag in place, and listening to and watching Martin lately, he does not look happy, and sounds increasingly frustrated.

If nothing else, something is going to give one way or the other pretty soon.

Does anybody else have the same feeling on this?

Well by the sound of people on here:

Thanks for the memories Martin, you took us from being absolute rubbish to a really decent team.

Its a pity that people don't have patience anymore, but as you always say - 'its a results business'

and the people who are impatient have a lot more 'power' in taking the feel good factor away than the people who try to keep it up..

best of luck in whatever you choose to do next, i'll bet you'll do a cracking job at stabilising and building it.

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You should do stand up, that was fooking hilarious

So are we in a better state today than where we were at the end of last season?

And you say patiance......

Its been 4 years, and we still dont know whoms playing right back or left back!

Dont get me wrong mate, i want Martin to turn this around. But we have a squad thats weaker than what finished last season, and it looks like that we have no chance of seeing the 5 quality players arriving, that Martin said were a minimum requirement!

Oh, wait for it....the transfer window aint closed yet.

Well if he turns up many more gems like Heskey, then we might as well let it close now.

And dont aim the fickle shit at me either, cos in 30 years of following my club home and away, im proberly more experienced to tell it how i see it.

Martin?

Love the guy....but you cant deny there are problems?

WM tommorrow?

i swear this club is jinxed. as soon as a manager has been here 3 years it starts to go tits up.

i want MON to stay and do well, but at the moment he doesnt look like he knows how to fix it

Me to mate, but you can only judge on what you see and hear :cry:

Did anyone hear Martins aftermatch comments on WM tonight?

Well if you did, then like me, you will have heavy doubts on where we are supposed to be heading. He was so incoherent he could of been on smack.

It got to a point where he sounded like a complete idiot.

I got the impression hes on the verge of walking, and you know what.......he will. He will walk away because he want to keep his media image alive. Its not his fault, its the fickle fans, its the lack of investment.

Trust me, we are seeing the end play

Thought Campbells gone to the Geordies?

Show's fickleness IMO!

People say there not just moaning about this game but if they said stay at the end of last season, then saynig No now is abit stupid. Like Everton wanting Moyes sacked.

All fans are fickle, thats why we are fans

Put it this way, if we sack MON, we'll be a laughing stock! If people seriously think Hiddink, they've been on some serious medication. Next someone will say why not try for Wenger or Mourinho. I've watched the game again, and you know what alot of blame does lie with MON, his tactics were all wrong, but credit where credits due, Wigan were superb, the pressure they put on us, the way they kept the ball, I really think they'll be darkhorses in this campaign. We'll be back, add a few more 'quality' players. Liverpool is the best game for us, we can go there with no pressure and just play our game.

Your a brave man watching that shite again

It was a dire performance and big things need to be done. That team is capable of more than that, and it's also likley to be augmented with signings in the coming couple of weeks.

But getting rid is ludicrous. Lets see what the next couple of weeks bring us in terms of performances and signings.

Those signings need to be serious though. Not cut price cast offs or Nicky Shorey/Heskey panic buys.

We have the cash, and its now, we have to spend it.

Weve had all summer, and to be honest, yesterday was always going to happen. Thats the annoying thing.

To many players decided to hide yesterday, and thats an ominous sign.

What about all the games before when we played some fantastic football?

7 Away wins on the bounce.

This all proves to me that MON and the squad have it in them to turn things around.

It was not just because of Laursen and Barry.

Some people won't have it mate. They'll just say we've always played shit football. People won't be happy until we are Arsenal.

And whats wrong with that?

Is that not what we should be trying to do?

Yes but quite obviously we need patience to get there.

Something we almost did last year.

Very true. But more of yesterday, and that patiance will have gone.

OK, there are a few on here that hope Martin will fail. But there are lots of us that like the man immensly, and want him to succeed. I hope he does.

But look at yesterday and tell me everything is going to be ok.

Its not the losing, its how you lose.

Here's a scenario! before the season started how many people would have took 3 points from our opening two fixtures? well what happens if you go and spank Liverpool? aren't we where we thought we would be? I know it's all if's and but's....BUT let's not give up after one game eh?!

For the umpteenth time, it's not just about one game.

What about all the games before when we played some fantastic football?

7 Away wins on the bounce.

This all proves to me that MON and the squad have it in them to turn things around.

It was not just because of Laursen and Barry.

And the form we ended last season indicates that they have not got that in them.

Something is very wrong behind the scenes, only a blind man would fail to see that.

You are basing all this on assumption though.

When we have seen countless interviews from people saying the team spirit is brilliant.

It certainly looked like that yesterday :winkold:

Yes, its all assumptions. But thats all we have to go on. You can only comment on what you see in front of you, and yesterday was scarey.

What about all the games before when we played some fantastic football?

7 Away wins on the bounce.

This all proves to me that MON and the squad have it in them to turn things around.

It was not just because of Laursen and Barry.

Some people won't have it mate. They'll just say we've always played shit football. People won't be happy until we are Arsenal.

And whats wrong with that?

Is that not what we should be trying to do?

Here's a scenario! before the season started how many people would have took 3 points from our opening two fixtures? well what happens if you go and spank Liverpool? aren't we where we thought we would be? I know it's all if's and but's....BUT let's not give up after one game eh?!

For the umpteenth time, it's not just about one game.

What about all the games before when we played some fantastic football?

7 Away wins on the bounce.

This all proves to me that MON and the squad have it in them to turn things around.

It was not just because of Laursen and Barry.

And the form we ended last season indicates that they have not got that in them.

Something is very wrong behind the scenes, only a blind man would fail to see that.