randy_69

The mythology of robin Olsen…

I took my 13 yr old daughter last night. She was desperate to sit in the holte for the atmosphere so I agreed - L4.

A few minutes in there was a corner where it looked for all the world like Olsen had misjudged it and was going to miss it. We let out a gasp and shudder together. Fortunately he reached it and palmed it out of the area. We then got four word expletives from two men in front of us:: what the f is wrong with you, that was a good save’

fast forward to second goal. My daughter plays in goal and shows a fantastic tactical awareness whenever she plays. She dared to say to me aloud that she thought Olsen should have cut off the angle better and made himself bigger…again the men turned….

and then the fourth goal. I let out an OMG or words to that effect. Once again were told how Olsen hadn’t done anything wrong and there was no way was he stopping it. I said he got his hand to it, and also felt he had gone too early for a shot from that range. Still think he should have saved it. More expletives at me this time.

Should have been a memorable experience for her but instead this was all she was talking about for 2 hours going home.

We supported the team the whole way, just spur of the moment reactions and comments between ourselves. Yet when the midfield are passing to invisible men and Lenglet gifting corners away, momentary groans are allowable.

So this is the mythology. He’s either the worst keeper since Gabor the pyjama man or to others, someone who never puts a foot wrong and the rest of the world is to blame. The truth (backed by stats) is that he isn’t a top keeper. Too slow, not commanding, reflexes not on a par with most premier league keepers. He’s bang average and we need better for our number 2 (but I’ll whisper that quietly in case I offend again).

Rant over!!!!

2 minutes ago, sne said:

As mentioned he's only 18 and he doesn't speak English and hardly even French. He'd be a perfect guy to sign and then loan out to Vitoria or the Championship if possible. Never know with young players but he looks special. He does everything at twice the speed than the players around him, both on and off the ball and with his thought process. Hope we send someone to scout him. Apparently Liverpool and a bunch of French clubs already have.

Didn’t stop Gerrard becoming an England international

1 hour ago, villanmac said:

Carlos Cueller used to the drop the odd bollock as well.

They should all have goofy teeth and curly hair too

1 hour ago, brummybloke said:

Can see renaming of parts of the ground, the doug Ellis stand probably being the first to be sponsored and renamed.

Potential for 3 of the 4 sides to be seperate sponsored ( obvs not the holte end) 

Generating an extra couple million at least, per stand per year would seem easily achieved if we remain in Europe.

The Dunkin’ Donuts Doug Ellis stand with Dug Ellis stand in big neon

That TNT commentator. What an absolute word removed. Wonderful Lille robbed by nasty Martínez and his unsporting antics, not to mention football rules that are archaic! Honestly you’d have thought we’d been battered, like 40 shots to 0. Yes they were better for 70 minutes. Once Bailey came on they were cacking their pants…always felt if we grabbed one back we would have won. And we should have won in extra time, the only team creating clear chances. Lille robbed??? Non monsieur…you had a lot of possession but created next to nothing…

47 minutes ago, Folski said:

She doesnt remember this?

Is that Tommy Elphick in the middle??

If villa finish 5th and qualify for champions league, does anyone know if we will need to go through a playoff stage or straight to new style group stage? Just thinking about holiday plans!!!!

How the heck does this xG bollox work? Fed up of hearing managers claiming they were the better team and should have won because of it. Same yesterday. Apparently wolves was higher. Let I saw Watkins clear through and miss; zaniolo great save; score twice…whilst those knuckle dragging dingle inbreds only forced Martinez into one decent save all game! Anyone looking on could see we were the better team for 60/90 minutes (I’ll give them the first 20; and first 10 of second half)

Should be at least 4 points IMO. They knew they had breached previous year and haven’t sorted themselves out. Could have sold Pickford for example for a large wedge. 

I’ve give MOM to Diego. Just cos I felt sorry for him getting injured again and no one else voting for him

…seriously, it was noticeable they were better at the back tonight with his strength alongside Pau. Totally nullified mr blobby up front for them, who had looked a bit of a handful in the first leg. Horses for courses, but Diego has a big role for us against that kind of forward! Hope he isn’t out for too long 

Is there a website address where these relative coefficient stats are updated???

Looked like a 45yr old Yakubu up front for them

11 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

Revised numbers having reviewed the accounts on Companies House

	2022	2023	2024
Match Day	16.1	18.7	26
Broadcast	123.2	152.5	175
Commercial	26.4	30.1	60
Sponsorship	12.7	16.3
Income	178.4	217.6	261
Wages	-137	-194.2	-194.2
Other Costs	-41.9	-66.4	-66.4
Player Amort	-82.5	-92.5	-92.5
Depreceiation	-3.5	-4	0
Non-Recurring income/cost	-9.8	-2.1	0
Gain on player sales	97.4	22	40
Exepenses	-177.3	-337.2	-313.1
Operating Profit/Loss	1.1	-119.6	-52.1
Allowable Deductions	22	26.8	25
PSR Figure	23.1	-92.8	-27.1

So I think the non recurring cost in 2022 was related to the Lerner Payment (I've put the interest paid in here for 2023 accounts). I think the payouts to Deano and Gerrard are probably in with Wages/Other costs as it's paying up their contracts and I think the payment to Villareal in compensation for Emery is in somewhere under "other costs". 

I think this is why we see in the UEFA presentation such a huge increase in total wages over player wages. All the Gerrard/Emery expenses are in there.

*Note Commercial revenue includes the income from players out on Loan (5.7m). I don't have the figure for 2022.

 

Thanks so much for the work you put in to try to rationalise all this for the uninitiated! So the headline is, that if your assumptions are correct, we should be fine for 2023/24. But we’ll need to turn a small profit for one year in 2024/25 to stay compliant before the horrible loss year drops out of the equation???

1 hour ago, T-Dog said:

Are people not rating Carlos? I don't think he's done a fat lot wrong IMO

100% this. Until mings comes back we are a a better defensive unit with him in it. The number of goals we’ve started leaking from set pieces recently has been alarming 

2 minutes ago, macandally said:

. It is important to note that these figures are in line with the strategic business plan, and we continue to operate within the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability rules. 
 

Are we just ignoring this bit then? I read that as we are covered 

It does look as though they are confident we haven’t breached up to end of 2022/23. What we don’t know about is the current year for the next set of calculations. So if we basically broke even in 2021/22, and we have allowed losses of 90m plus on 2022/23, then that means we can’t have any more than around 15 million allowable losses this year (2023/24). Whether we need to sell quickly in June (with the extended accountancy period) to make that figure is the question?

But as a previous poster mentioned, would we really have signed Rogers in January if this was a possibility???

Best defence IMO is when we have Pau and Carlos together with konsa as right back (who basically becomes a third centre half as the left back pushes up)

AZ currently beating Ajax 2-0. Good stuff

14 hours ago, villan-scott said:

 

Why Froday though and not sooner?! 

Presumably at the airport he will go to bag-ins rather than check-ins

Official comments from Warsaw at end of this most recent article from the BBC. Just wow, can’t believe they are totally shifting the blame. None of those arrested had tickets so nowt to do with them apparently. Club is rotten to the core…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-67599955

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Forty-six men have been charged after violence broke out before an Aston Villa game against Legia Warsaw.

Five police officers were injured in clashes with away fans near Villa Park in Birmingham on Thursday night.

Of the 46 men charged, 43 have been charged with a public order offence, West Midlands Police said.

7.30am on again. 

Anyone know how long it takes for the full match replay to appear on tnt/discovery sports app? Desperate to watch this again asap :-)

7 hours ago, Zatman said:

2 subs come on and score to change the game

Add tielemans coming on with some top passing. Absolutely key to getting the result. So nice to have impact from the bench. 

On 10/09/2023 at 00:27, villaajax said:

I think she had a cap this year at some point but I don't follow England...

Did she play as a wing back then