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1. Wages 2. A club that has been battling relegation consistently in recent years (with no sign of positivity to steer away from that level which we currently occupy, anytime in the near future) what an attractive proposition; a club in malaise who's general wage structure match that of a team in the championship with no long term plan of ambition.

wouldnt signing him on decent enough wages be a sign of ambition in itself?

if its say us, norwich, fulham, everton, hamburg, schalke that all go in for him then how can you possibly say that he'll join everton because they are higher up in the table and his dads club, or schalke because its his former club or hamburg because they are in germany or fulham because he likes london? out of those id say we havent got a chance but if it was us, norwich and fulham? id be pretty confident

or all of those teams and bigger / better could be in for him and he says he'd rather stay at spurs anyway

plenty of different factors that we don't know, agree its unlikely but you cant categorically say he wont come here

Back on topic though, if Hoolahan has that little bit about him creatively and wants to come here and play for the team, I would rather have him! Norwich fans seem to rate him highly and has Prem experience plus playing experience on top of that. He is what we need and can get, within the constraints this club has to work with.

People need to get a grip, I see loads banging on about a number 10, then we sign one! Before he has even played I think the common feeling towards him is that he is shit! Newsflash that's our level of player now! Are some people actually expecting a Mata-esq quality of player to sign then if so; a few people need to be getting some medication. How's about throwing a little support his way, or do we want to mentally break this player also.

No one is expecting a Mata type signing, just not someone from League One Holtby would be ideal.

And Holtby is any more realistic?

the only thing that makes holtby unlikely IMO is the fact that he's German, hard to know how much he likes life here (or London) and if he would drop to mid table, but i can imagine a fair few mid table if not higher German clubs would happily sign him too, for me our chances of signing him would all depend on how much he wants to leave and who else wants him if the answer is he's desperate to go and no one else wants him then why cant we get him?

People need to get a grip, I see loads banging on about a number 10, then we sign one!

Before he has even played I think the common feeling towards him is that he is shit!

Newsflash that's our level of player now! Are some people actually expecting a Mata-esq quality of player to sign then if so; a few people need to be getting some medication.

How's about throwing a little support his way, or do we want to mentally break this player also.

No one is expecting a Mata type signing, just not someone from League One Holtby would be ideal.

People need to get a grip, I see loads banging on about a number 10, then we sign one!

Before he has even played I think the common feeling towards him is that he is shit!

Newsflash that's our level of player now! Are some people actually expecting a Mata-esq quality of player to sign then if so; a few people need to be getting some medication.

How's about throwing a little support his way, or do we want to mentally break this player also.

John Gregory. He would give these chumps a kick up the arse, and he's one of us.

Current record at Crawley is W2 D2 L1. That includes an away win against Orient who are third and who'd only lost one at home before that game.

Please say he's rediscovered his magic and gets Crawley promoted. A good season in the Championship after that, maybe getting them amongst the play off places, would be enough to convince me that we should have him back.

Nobody should ever go back!

Well I think Norwich and McNally are more than a little **** on this one given this quote from Hughton;

He said: "Colin Calderwood, who was with me at Newcastle, Paul Trollope, who was with me at Birmingham, and Ewan Chester, who was also with me at Birmingham.

They have effectively given other people their jobs meaning that they will either need to pay them off or be open to a claim for constructive dismissal. They have zero chance of compensation from us for Culverhouse or Karsa who will be joining us in the not too distant future without any doubt.

Hmm Really?

http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/david_mcnally_norwich_city_want_to_keep_hold_of_ian_culverhouse_and_gary_karsa_1_1404264

PS. David McNally is also a director.

You've been bitten once already by quoting this guy. I am pretty sure he was even more adamant about Lambert staying but that didn't work out too well did it?

Time will tell, if its a straight choice between our CEO and yours, McNally is streets ahead imo.

how old are you?

Our owner is richer than yours..............boom!

Being serious now, if we payed the compo they would be ours, the way your club is acting is quite embarassing. You lot should learn from us, how to do things with a bit of class.

I'm guessing the compo will be around 1-2m

And you're quibbling over paying it? Wow, what a big club you are.

And when you do eventally have him and a top 6 club suddenly needs a manager, enjoy looking over your shoulder.

You are hilarious, I hope you and your lot have fun this season! I hear Alex McLeish is a free agent would suit Norwich down to the ground I think! ;-)

RDM woukd be OK. Turned around Chelsea's failing season & won them the FA Cup & the CL?

Hmmm. Should be good enough even for the "mighty" Villa. :winkold:

Sums it up really, the state we are in we would be lucky to get a manager who has just won the european cup.

But some would rather put a bunch of conjecture on it to criticise what he achieved for some reason. All the more confusing considering the hysteria over solskjaer, a guy who has done nothing in management.

Really don`t understand what di matteo has done wrong to turn people against him.

Its the boring factor if you ask me.

FWIW I totally agree with you but..

RDM, RM, Rafa, PL, KMac etc (albeit some ppl want some of them) - are boring because we are aware of them. There obvious. OGS on the other hand, is totally different so is quite exciting.

The thought that some people (including me) are turning their nose up at two european cup winners, is, when you think about it, ridiculous given the size/state of the club.

And those that scrutinise the way RDM won it - probably dont give it two thoughts that our 1982 win was one of the flukiest in european history.

Question, have you ever seen the entire match of our European cup win???

The highlights show nothing but Bayern attacks on our goal which in fairness they had more of than we did plus those highlights highlighted Spinks heroics and he did in his own way win that game for us.

But if you watch the match Villa had just as much of the play especially in the first half as Bayern did, we by no means 'parked the bus' Rummenneger (sp?) was on fire and defensively we deserved the win and with THE BEST MOVE OF THE MATCH deserved to win it offensively.

The sooner Stephen Brady gets fired the better.

This! What an utter word removed.

And on the getting it stakes has to be Karen Brady imo.

Guardiola

Major spanner

Martinez has reportedly said he prefers villa over liverpool

....Be afraid.......

Nope, this year unlike last we are in control.

This time last year we were getting turned down left right and centre, Martinez can prefer us to whoever he likes if we want Lambert or OGS and they would like to work with us then Martinez can settle with managing us on FIFA 13!

If we landed him and not OGS or Lambert I would be disappointed, enough said there really.

I personally never said kmacs reserve teams play hoofball but the first team does! The whole coaching set up at villa isn't great is it really! Kmac and sid and all the others may be villa through and through may be nice guys, but we haven't really became successful have we?

Now for the reserve love in, yes they are successful at their level but can anybody please tell me how many of these talents have come through to the first team and been really successful and by that been really shit hot...........nope none spring to mind!

I would be very surprised if this doesnt come through now.

Do his teams play hoof? His teams have been successful haven't they? Why change it?

Because its the difference between where we are now and where we should be

Maybe not the best choice of words there, you know what i mean.

Just wondered if anybody could help me out here, I havent been to Birmingham since i was 16 years old and that was only to visit family with my parents. So going down the Villa with my dad was the only thing i have ever done.

Im now engaged and am taking my fiancee to my hometown fpr the first time to meet some of my family but I would like to do some bits and pieces down their with her.

The Bullring is the only thing i know of that we could do for a few hours is there anything else?

Any good places to go out for a night out etc

Cheers folks

Decent profile for the club i think, not very good for the fans of those two teams though as not many tickets i imagine will go to fans after all the FA and official bods nab half the seats but on the other hand i couldnt care less.

I think he needs to go, if OGS comes in he needs to completely restructure our whole backroom staff. Bring in coaches who will coach the players on how to play football instead of hoofball and instill a winning mentality throughout the squad top to bottom.

Kmac is a good guy, done well at Villa but in my opinion I would get rid and start again.

AVB for me, If backed I think he would come here, has something to prove in the english game after getting crucified at chelsea.

Other than that Lambert please.

Alex, is that CI sucking your cock?

that really did make me laugh!

Fair play there mate, I would take him in a heartbeat over the clown at the moment I do have to say.

I feel Lambert though would be perfect, all of Martin O'Neills qualities and from what I have seen none of his weaknesses.

For me I dont know why Martinez is rated so highly by some. I remember last year before McLeish was appointed he was an unpopular choice. What has he done this season though to change opinions.

For me if Faulkner and Randy dont even attempt to tempt Lambert from NORWICH (no disrespect intended) but even in our current plight Aston Villa > Norwich.

I wanted him. Still do. Still gutted we didnt get him.

So calm, and sticks to what he believes that always seems to get the right result in the end.

I will agree with you there, his demeanour and attitude is right and I do like that about him and who knows if we gave him a chance at a bigger club and back him he may be a revelation. Look at John Gregory I was only young when he was appointed but I imagine he wasnt the most attractive appointments but did well.

I just dont think so, he has had some good players at Wigan and still has only scraped survival on most of his seasons there.

Who are these good players?

Has he had them all at the same time?

Only Valencia has really gone on to better things and performed. Did Martinez even have Valencia?

As in good i dont mean outstanding but solid enough.

Mohamed Diame

Hugo Rodallega

Ali Al Habsi

Maynor Figueroa

Franco Di Santo

Scott Sinclair (on loan for a year)

Paul Scharner

Mario Melchiot - yes scraping the barrel a wee bit but all solid enough players in my opinion.

Are you kidding me? McLeish has played for a draw on numerous occasions this season. It's no coincidence that we've drawn 0-0 seven times.

Maybe not, but I personally dont believe his sole ethos is to simply snatch a draw from every game he plays.

I just think he has no idea how to manage a football team!

For me I dont know why Martinez is rated so highly by some. I remember last year before McLeish was appointed he was an unpopular choice. What has he done this season though to change opinions.

For me if Faulkner and Randy dont even attempt to tempt Lambert from NORWICH (no disrespect intended) but even in our current plight Aston Villa > Norwich.

I wanted him. Still do. Still gutted we didnt get him.

So calm, and sticks to what he believes that always seems to get the right result in the end.

I will agree with you there, his demeanour and attitude is right and I do like that about him and who knows if we gave him a chance at a bigger club and back him he may be a revelation. Look at John Gregory I was only young when he was appointed but I imagine he wasnt the most attractive appointments but did well.

I just dont think so, he has had some good players at Wigan and still has only scraped survival on most of his seasons there.