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King Kenny spends £100m on absolute shit and he's still worshipped.

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I don't think it's a bad decision.

Yes he's done well since he's been standing in. But Shay Given is still the better keeper.

Given is the number 1. he knows that and Guzan knows that. Dropping Given at this point would send a worse message to him than it would to Guzan, imo.

Yes Guzan has done well, but he's still not as good as Given, and Given hasn't done anything to justify dropping him.

I absolutely agree.

And what concrete facts do you have that prove he went for McGeady and offered him 65k a week?

None as usual I suspect.

Able deputy? He's been absolutely fantastic.

He's played for weeks with a broken nose.

Commissions are an absolute waste of public money. Why spend hundreds of thousands on 5-6 people coming to a judgement when the truth is out there if parties accept the facts, which are out there already.

It also kinda undermines your initial declaration about the royal family.

If you are going to say that then at least say why.

Every people have the right to self determination. The Scottish people like the English. Irish and Welsh are being taxed weekly out of their hard earned money to prop up the British royal family.

Enough is enough.

Where do you draw the line, though? Cornwall? Yorkshire? What is a "people"?

Well, that brings up the whole debate about nationalism. The fact is though people are connected for whatever social / historical reason to "them" and "us". Its alive today in football, every sport and every walk of life.

No god created the country borders around the world, it was human beings themselves. It has always been based on historical, cultural and long term standing traditions in that part of the world. Like the Vikings, Romans etc.

Every people have the right to self determination. The Scottish people like the English. Irish and Welsh are being taxed weekly out of their hard earned money to prop up the British royal family.

Enough is enough.

I'm sure he did

No he didn't.

Protest lol.

Every clubs fans say the media are against them.

I wish people wouldn't fall for a number of statistics put on a website and then act as if it is gospel.

But its okay for people to believe that Darren Bent WILL be sold, because a paper said so? (and then subsequently use that info to continue slating the manager, owner and club?)

That is the nature of football and transfer windows. If you read RedCafe people still thought Rooney would leave even though he signed a new contract. There were posts claiming it was all a ploy to get a top price in the summer.

It is human nature to be pessimisttic in times of uncertainty, and with the club being in so much turmoil that really is not surprising. People are curious beings and will always see the bad in certain situations regardless of what has been said. It certainly does not help that our manager said Downing would not be sold for anything less than £50m.

The papers are just throwing Bent's name out there. He was going to Liverpool last week.

Nonsense. When it comes to football "rumours" The Guardian and Telegraph are usually spot on. They don't print random bollocks with no substance like The Mirror, Daily Star or The Sun.

There were some stats on here a while ago comparing how true each paper's rumours were. The broadsheets performed slightly better than the tabloids IIRC but were still wrong most of the time.

Can anyone link me to the stats?

I think it may have been these

Thanks briny_ear. I wish people wouldn't believe every negative story they read.

I wish people wouldn't fall for a number of statistics put on a website and then act as if it is gospel.

Firstly, anyone can put a bunch of statistics on a website. Secondly, if someone was to carryout research whether it is in the field of academic research or transfer rumours people will want facts on how this research was carried out. You cannot expect everyone to simply believe numbers put on a website.

Thirdly, there is quite a huge difference that is clear to me when reviewing the statistics that this website says is correct.

Daily Mirror - linked Villa with 500 players

The Sun - linked with 171 different players

NOTW - 131 different players

Daily Mail - 214 players

They have an average accuracy rating of 23.75% out of a total of 1016 players the 4 rags linked us with. Over 750 rumours they created were absolute bollocks, created as bollocks to fill column inches.

If you look at the broadsheets and respected papers:

The Guardian - Linked with 46 players - 18 correct - 39.1%

The Times - Linked with 50 - 21 correct - 42%

It is quite clear papers like The Independent, The Times, The Guardian do not bother making up pointless rumours to fill column inches. Sure, they get some wrong, show me a paper that doesn't. However, when they bother to link us with a player there is a 40% chance with The Times there is substance, thereabouts with The Guardian.

My point is they don't create mindless rumours like The Sun etc. They link us with players because they have heard from sources that there is substance. When The Times and The Guardian say QPR are looking at Bent and Hughes has money to spend I am very likely to believe it. Two respected papers wouldn't link him there if Hughes wasn't interested imo.

When you look at the statistics and number of players linked you will see that. The broadsheets link us with a smaller sample which has an average accuracy rating, as again they don't put random made-up rumours in their paper. The rags link us with everyone and anyone and mud will stick eventually.

We are going no where for quite sometime. Hughes will have been promised money to spend in January and the summer. He resigned from Fulham apparently over broken promises and would do it again at QPR if they didn't hold their end of the bargain.

If QPR intend on making a big statement they would increase his wage even by £5k. He'd still get thousands from a signing on fee + bonuses.

hmm i wonder how he would have performed the season houllier came in. i suspect he would have flopped hence why he walked like a coward

not a man like david moyes in my opinion

Pretty sure he didn't walk as the club had to pay him off.

He resigned.

The club may have put pressure on him to budget better and to trim the wage bill, but ultimately it was his decision to leave rather than the clubs.

It's irrelevant now but there is little proof of either position, the only actual fact here is that the club had to pay MON compensation, whether MON resigned and claimed for breach of contract / constructive dismissal or he was sacked isn't worthy of debate any more. The fact points to some degree of fault on the clubs side

Absolutely. If I resigned from my company I wouldn't be paid compensation for leaving, unless I could legally prove I had grievances that would be binding and compensated for in a court of law.

This idea that he got up willy nilly and resigned is nonsense and short-sighted. The club paid him outside because they knew their case couldn't stand up in front of the legal authorities, and that they had breached terms of their contract. It really isn't that hard to understand. I laugh at people who call him a quitter and everything else. They're either 14 or don't understand contracts or the process of resolving contracts, in which case they should be quiet as they have no idea of what they are talking about.

I can see lots of reasons why Darren Bent would want to leave right now.

Me too. Just not to QPR.

More ££££ and moving back to London?

The papers are just throwing Bent's name out there. He was going to Liverpool last week.

Nonsense. When it comes to football "rumours" The Guardian and Telegraph are usually spot on. They don't print random bollocks with no substance like The Mirror, Daily Star or The Sun.

There were some stats on here a while ago comparing how true each paper's rumours were. The broadsheets performed slightly better than the tabloids IIRC but were still wrong most of the time.

Can anyone link me to the stats?

The papers are just throwing Bent's name out there. He was going to Liverpool last week.

Nonsense. When it comes to football "rumours" The Guardian and Telegraph are usually spot on. They don't print random bollocks with no substance like The Mirror, Daily Star or The Sun.

I don't mind our current badge, but I prefer the round version.

Its amazing really, because if you look around all the message boards some of the kits people create in their bedroom, or living room look fantastic. You have to wonder how shirt designers at multi-million pound level can spend so much money and make some kits look so shit.

Lindsay Lohan.

Well said Risso. People that think he will magically get it right live in Peter Pan land. If you look back at his appointments in American football he gets it wrong every single time.

Presumably he has all bar one wrong at th Villa?

What are you on about now?

If you follow American football you will know exactly how managerial appointments he has got wrong over there. :yawn:

I am on about Aston Villa, the subject of this forum.

Was your post purely to do with American Football, and nothing to do with Aston Villa then?

It was a post based on Randy Lerner, in a topic that discusses issues relating to Randy Lerner, the owner of Aston Villa. It isn't that difficult to work out really.

Supposedly beat up his ex-girlfriend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083816/Liverpool-star-Stewart-Downing-arrested-punching-ex-girlfriend-nightclub.html

FFS he's only gone and won manager of the month

He is now 3rd in the all time Premier League list behind Ferguson and Wenger. Not bad going considering he spent a few years up in Scotland and also a couple of seasons not managing. He is not surprisingly, given the shit served up since, the last Aston Villa manager to win the award for April 2010.

If only he could convert that success into victories at Wembley.......

Eh?

What did he win with Leicester, and didn't he win a playoffas well?

:?

Well said Risso. People that think he will magically get it right live in Peter Pan land. If you look back at his appointments in American football he gets it wrong every single time.

Presumably he has all bar one wrong at th Villa?

What are you on about now?

If you follow American football you will know exactly how managerial appointments he has got wrong over there. :yawn:

I hate that she always speaks like a fat

chap regaining composure having just climbed the stairs.