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On 04/12/2018 at 08:39, Demitri_C said:

I didn't hear one boggies song about wolves. Shows they know they see themselves as significantly smaller than wolves.

I think with wolves villa there is a mutual respect and its more banter.

Wba and the blosers is the same between them.

Albion only really started caring about wolves because of circumstance. We were well out of their league and they were battling more with wolves at the time. Since Albion came back to the prem in the early 00’s they’ve changed their rivalries on a season by season basis. They’re a strange bunch. 

On 02/12/2018 at 20:23, KHV said:

Friday night away game against Handsworth FC. That's not going to pass without trouble. Stupid kick off time against them. **** Sky 

Been Albion away 6 times and never seen anything more than gobbing off between the fans and a very minor scuffle on a train platform once. 

You our get off the train/tram. Home fans one way, away fans the other and it’s 2 minutes walk to the away end. 

Don’t get me wrong I **** hate the baggies, but it’s nowhere near the same as the blues. There isnt the same intensity and hatred when we play the Albion as when we play blues. The Albion fans absolutely hate us but they’re terrified of us.

1 hour ago, sidcow said:

Why is no one writing about this? The game is tomorrow and we are only up to 5 pages, I would expect it to be way more. 

Anyway my personal opinion is I would prefer to never have these games. They are absolutely no win for us.  All that can happen is it goes wrong for us. 

We smash them...... It's expected and what should happen. 

We struggle to beat them and we have failed because we should  be able to smash them. 

If we draw we have failed because we should  be able to smash them. 

We lose, it's a humiliation. 

There is no way we can win. 

Therefore I hope we smash them into next week as we are expected to do. 

There will be no praise for Aston Villa FC in that but I will feel all the better for it. 

Similarly I will take a nervy 1 nil victory to us again the club will get nothing but criticism but I will feel better for it.

So this is one for the fans, not one for the club. 

We're not Premier League Aston Villa, we're Championship Aston Villa, battling for play-offs playing another Championship club. We're playing away from home, it's not expected that we smash them

And anyway, I do not care whether anyone thinks its expected of us. A win over them is fantastic, its our biggest rival and it means everything to me, regardless of whats expected.

2 hours ago, avfc456 said:

They are rejoicing anyway on twitter as 16 coaches are going apparently proving the city is theirs. 

They brought 15 coaches and had 2 special trains put on for them last year. They regularly bring coaches to Villa park. Coaches are only on this year for us because of the railway lines being down for "repairs"

13 minutes ago, wedge said:

This.

 

Where legally does it say that the police can keep us in?

 

Is it not false imprisonment?

IT was a request by someone in the supporters club last year thats how they get round things. Because one person asked for it, we've all got to put up with it.  Do WMP really think blues would actually be brave enough to try it on with 2100 people? 

1 hour ago, avfc456 said:

Not quite that quick after though is it, what was it over 2 hours last season back to Brum.

It's two hours anyway with the lock in. Each to their own, but I don't see the need for coaches, its Bladens wet dream. Hope everyone does their own thing and **** him over.

On 25 October 2017 at 19:49, avfc1982 said:

Have they hell! 24k is all they have to shift for a home sell out (with their reduced capacity) and they still can’t manage it. 

Pathetic support from a pathetic club. 

They haven't even opened their half of the upper tier yet apparently. 

All the usual old myths are out, they're all dead hard, working class and hard as ****. Were all tories who play with balloons and are shit scared of going there. We begged for a lock-in and if it wasn't for that they'd bash us all back to Aston. Seem to be forgetting in the days before our lock ins they stood behind the police vans mouthing and did nothing else down the hill. And that their supporters club asked for a lock in at VP but they couldn't have one because our ground isn't laid out suitably for that, which is why they ended up with their own special trains, their own train station and barriers protecting them from said posh tories.

They're full of shit. Saying the police are basically stopping them selling out, the club have made it too difficult, not worth the hassle etc. In reality the police have stopped it from being a complete and utter embarrassment for them.

Heart says 3 0 to Villa, head says scrappy 1 0 to Villa, horrible feeling in my stomach says them.

So they're planning for months, and at the last minute Bladen realises they're not running trains? Yeah, alright. He's wanted to shove Villa fans on coaches since the cup game, he'll be buzzing.

9 minutes ago, avfc456 said:

Why? 

Because its 10 mins in a taxi, or an hours walk from Aston. Or 20 mins walk from town. Max

I would be fuming if I was made to catch a coach, and in any case it wouldn't make much if any difference, because they'd still need to clear the whole of the Cov road and the roundabout. 

I just hope they get the same shit treatment as we did, hope they get an hour long lock in and a magical mystery tour all around Birmingham...

You weren't supposed to walk back to town at that point, the idea was you had to get the train for a complete unknown reason, its just that so many ignored it and did it anyway they had no choice. We went left there, **** waiting for the train there was around 1500 Villa fans in that shitty escort. 

It was shit, they should have closed the Cov road off outside the away end and let us straight out and escorted us down to the same Island, locking off all the pubs in Digbeth and the one on the top of the roundabout. Apart from them jumping on fences and taking a swing at someone from over the fence before throwing a coin **** all of note happened, as predicted.

On 24 October 2016 at 18:34, The Fun Factory said:

I'd rather be good in the premier league than the championship. It is a nice change but I don't want Villa to be trapped down here. It like going on holiday- a break is nice but not all the time.  Villa at the bare minimum should be a well run mid table top flight club. That is not being arrogant, that is based on our past record and fan base.

I've only ever known Villa as a Prem side, playing mainly the same teams and going the same grounds year in year out. This season feels like a breath of fresh air too me. I'm seeing us play teams who I've never seen before and come to VP with a lot more enthusiasm and I'm enjoying the new grounds to visit and the local derbys. I could go another season if we stay down but that would be it for me, I wanna win promotion and get back up there. 

Also, insanely, we drop down a division and ticket prices for away games fall! 

2 minutes ago, It's Your Round said:

I've never considered West Brom as a real derby. Perhaps it's because for the first 15 or so years of supporting Villa they weren't really in the same league. I always saw Wolves as their main derby, they were in the same league for a long time. I guess newer fans could see it differently, still seems strange though. The difference in intensity when we play the blues is huge. The pure hatred, anger and desire to put one over the other side is massive. I don't think it compares anyway near to West Brom. 

This is what I'm saying, people have built Albion up to be something that its not because its all we've had in the last few years. The tension and atmosphere when we play the shit is huge. Not helped by the fact last season was dog shit and even though we beat them, it was a smaller crowd than we all expected and it was a massive anti-climax

6 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:

Hmmmm.

I mean as a kid it was only ever Small Heath. Some people see West Brom as a rival which is fair enough, quite a few including myself don't really care about them. Unless they're very young I'm not really sure how that has escaped their attention, that some Villa fans don't even see Albion as much of a "derby" at all. At worst they're a bit deluded and mildly obsessed, it's rather quaint. You'd be hard pressed to find a Villa fan who feels that way about the shit. 

This is THE derby. To end all derby's. I feel like we're 2 days away from heading to war. 

Yeah for me it took 10 years of Villa to experience a real derby, when I started going it was mid 90's early 00's so big games were Cov and Man U. But it all changed when they came up, I hated watching us lose 3 0 on the telly, all their cnut fans on the pitch and I experienced first hand what a second city derby was on 03/03/03. Its been pure hatred ever since.

But some of our fans aged below 20 won't have been Small Heath away, the won't have really noticed that tension that comes with playing blues. All they'll know is Albion and that drum and some shit song about Popeye. I dislike Albion, and its got a lot more heated in the last few years, but I **** hate Birmingham City. 

21 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:

I don't know a single Villa fan who thinks this? 

I personally know and know of plenty. 

10 minutes ago, Gary Thomas said:

SHA fans can be arseholess, but we're not whiter than white; I have seen with my own eyes Villa fans do some pretty nasty things when playing Blues and Coventry. Generally speaking, "most" who go to these games just like the banter and verbals - they act out a bit and give it the big n with the crowd, but actually do f**k all.  Just got to watch out for the idiots who don't know where the line is.  Been to the sty a few times; just have to use your loaf e.g. don't get isolated walking about with Villa colours on, especially if we smash them on the pitch.  

Its the bollocks they come out with. All Villa fans are posh glory hunters who vote Tory, next minute we're the tramp historians who don't have homes. As I said, generally they're all just mouth. Don't wear colours, stick together and it'll be fine. 

0 2. About 4 smoke bombs too go off at the final whistle, Jedinak to score a free kick in the second half and Kodjia to score the 2nd on 82. Pandemonium 

It ain't a walk in the park. I've been twice before and never had my head kicked in. Few bottles to dodge but thats about it. Its not as if we're going to Syria. I'm pissed off theres a lock in n all, put a line of police across the blues fans outside the gates of the away end, let us walk down the hill. However, if we do win, 30 minutes extra taking the piss will be fun.

The timing of this is great, some of the lads who have started attending away games in the last 3/4 years and think Albion are our main rivals will see what a REAL local derby atmosphere is. Outsing the Albion with that shitty drum every year, Sunday will be red hot, bring it on 

On 27 October 2016 at 09:43, Grasshopper said:

The Scum make West Ham Millwall & Glasgow look like apprentices.

Someone should just nuke The SHA, be good for greenhouse gasses and global warming

Well OTT. It's just Blues. Just because they shout Zulus gonna get ya before making their way back to their nursing home don't make them scary. They're the biggest keyboard warriors on the planet.

20 hours ago, This Could Be Rotterdam said:

I remember years ago (may have even been the 5-1 making, coming out of the holte end and the police had put barriers up to block us all in the car park. Of course we were all loving it, lifted the barriers up in the air, passing them over our heads and going nuts, but no one was actually trying to get out, was just a massive party. 

But, what it allowed was them to get the away fans out onto their coaches before we even left the stadium. There's no sense in allowing the majority of the attendance out when they will be more difficult to police. Get the minority out and assure they are gone, and then allow the majority out after. They've got this completely the wrong way around. 

Except for the fact they'd get pissed off and invade the pitch, The stewards wouldn't be able to hold their fans for 30 minutes  nor would they want too. 

Anyone know roughly how many tickets sold?

Went to a boozer right by the train station last year. Double vodka red bull, two alcoholic ginger beer things and a bottle of corona gave change from a tenner. God bless the north! Thought the red robin was a bit crap. Mostly a family restaurant. The away bit outside the ground was better, and offered pies.

Which station and what was the pub called?

 

 

I imagine if Wigan lose at arsenal and we are safe they will have a cash turnstile in the away end or the box office will be open pre match to buy tickets

I would suspect that Wigan would not do this as thousands would turn up.

Doubt it, if we're safe pre game interest will drop off a bit

 

We'll pack this place out regardless of whether or not were safe, can see us taking 8k + regardless of whether or not we have tickets.