JamesWithe

The only time anyone sings in when they are standing up...everyone only stands in most of the ground when we attack and create chances....hence attack and fans will sing more 8)

See the pathetic handful of Republican protesters

60 years of service to the crown and country. Ignore the cynics she has been a fantastic Queen imo. An inspiration to millions flying the Union Jack with pride today on our small island nation

Why does it matter what colour a footballer is in relation to a role model? Is that not racist if you ignore role models of other races and only look for your own to lead the way.

Brain Lara is a role model for many fans of cricket did that stop white English ex pata from going to watch him play?

I'm not sure sikhs would liked to be grouped with Muslims either as the title of this thread appears to do so. No offence to the OP.

It's all down to money we have hardely any new young fans of any race coming to watch its too much money for week in and out support and we are also a boring team who does nothing.

I know what your saying it what other club is going to pay gabby 50k a week? Can't think of many. Who is going to give Dunne 50k or Hutton over 25k ....the days of big wages and spending are over for most teams and I fear we are stuck with this lot who ain't that good...

Delph on 30k? Really?

In reckon its at least 25k...remember the big chase to get this wonderkid for 6 million :oops:

When are our young players on 5-10k renewing contracts because you can be damn sure the agents will be saying if Delph is worth this much etc my players is worth 25k too :?

How can our wage bill still be high, I mean we have got No players lol.. Half our squad has come from the youth academy...sure we've got some players on high wages, but overall not that much anymore.

Im sorry your just wrong imo.

Under MON it was VERY VERY high. Now its just High. Look at a team like Swansea`s wages compared to us and its astonishing how much our lot are payed for where they got us in the league.

Warnock - 40

Collins - 35

Hutton - 25

Delph - 30

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Bunch of shit lifters mate. seen many English firms over the years and that lot would be eaten for breakfast.

Absolutely. I don't think the organised firms will have anything to worry about. The problem is those firms will largely be prevented from travelling in the first place. And what's left over in Pokraine is families and guys who aren't there for trouble. Lambs to whatever slaughter is waiting for them. An unfair fight.

This is also true.

Thy just need to have enough Police around which I am sure they will...probably use the same tactics as Germany in 2006.

Fact is its football and your always going to getting odd bits of trouble we still do often in the UK but the Police just about keep a lid on it despite using major resources. I dont think using what happens at club level in the league is realistic to compare to an International Tournament its a different kettle of fish totally in my experience.

I've never understood why neo-Nazism is so popular (compared to everywhere else) in Eastern Europe. You'd think that would be the last place.

I would rather say that the left wing/communists/antifa is problem. Why? Because they are often as extreme as right wing but have backing of left wing media (majority in my country). I.e. German (sic!) leftists beat up a lot of normal Polish people on our National Independence Day just because they consider this holiday as fascist holiday!

Yeah left wing extremists are also dangerous in these countries and our own. Both sides total opposite views but both just as dangrous.

While it is typical Panorama and they should always be taken with a pinch of salt, he did say he saw the nazi salute at every game he went to in the Ukraine.

The other thing that would worry me was the official saying that they were merely 'pointing towards the opposition'. If that level of denial is typical within their FA then it is more likely that behaviour is widespread and is not being dealt with.

The problem is that even if violence and fascism was on the fringes in Pokraine at the best of time, a major tournament is precisely the environment where it will come to the fore. Any under-current will blow up.

The more worrying thing if you're English is that I've seen and heard elsewhere that the English are seen as the masters/creators of football violence and these Pokrainian 'understudies' want to show their English masters that they're just as good as them at it. So your George's cross will be a target.

Bunch of shit lifters mate. seen many English firms over the years and that lot would be eaten for breakfast.

I think Faulkner deserves a crack at the job :nod:

Dave Whelan is doing what he's best at, looking after the interests of Wigan FC. Staying in the Premiership is worth at least 50 million a year to Wigan, and DW is desperately trying to piss people off so they'll go away and leave Martinez alone. He probably knows that he's fighting a losing battle this time, but you can't blame the mouthy old b*gger for trying.

Haha he is on the radio everytime i turn it on he knows what he is doing 8)

Of the current squad right now for me personally, the only established premiership players are Given, Hutton, Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Ireland, Bent, Agbonlahor. I left out Petrov for obvious reasons. That is 8 players, people are talking about getting rid of four of them. Out of the rest of the squad I cant imagine Albrighton, Delfouneso, Delph, Clark, Bannan, Weimann, Stevens, Lichaj, Herd, Baker, Marshall, Johnson, Burke, Williams, Gardner, Curruthers are on big wages? Leaving only Makoun & Holman. Is it just me or is that squad wafer thin. We need a manager who can get good money for the back four if they are to be sold and then can not only replace them but add a hell of a lot to the team. In my opinion we need about £40mil.

When you put it like this how does Villa need RL to bail them out 2 years in a row to a cost of 20 - 40 million each year? The squad is thread bare and we sold all the family Silverware which got money back in. Also we are 19th in the world club league table released last week. How are we loosing so much money ... cant be high wages as we only have 8 real first team players from above.

gate receipts have plummeted.

Its wags from the last few years I think you will find. Players have sucked all the money from the club and accomplished nothing...but like idiots we give them long term contracts just to secure the so called "top players" :x

We need to change the whole way we do buissness why buy a shit so called proven premiership players like Hutton when you can have 3 talented hungry lower league players and pay them 10k a week.

We're going to end up with another shit manager aren't we?

Who we will pay millions to win us Nothing :cry:

why do we bother

Would the fact that we didn't offer OGS the job mean that the first choice has accepted it or at least had positive talks?

I doubt it with our lot...Fact is I dont think we can pull another Ole out of the hat. We should of offered him the job now I fear Lambert wont want to come and we will be left with another so called "experienced" manager

Asking a Church to perform a gay marriage is like asking a Mosque to perform a Christening.

Spot on its the same with Halal meat the way in which the animal has its throat cut is utterly barbaric...yet it is allowed

We are too scared of upsetting religions which are stopping us moving forwards...

Also I know I may be a loony leftie but I have no sympathy for rich words removed who don't want to pay tax, they earn more than is sufficent anyway to lead a comfortable life, so they ought to give back more. If they want to **** off fine, there's 40 million other adults in the world who'll be ready to take their place.

Haha jealous by any chance??

Gay people should be allowed to adpot kids but I dont think they should be able to get legally married.

If you want to stop 'mass' immigration then you help improve the state of affairs in their home countries.

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Thats ridiculous to say thats the only option we have. 500 crimes a week are commited by immigrants (the ones that police catch) how about sending them home and sticking two fingers up to the EU.

Gods used to be a lot more cooler before muslims and christians came along. Im talking Roman/Greek/Eygptian gods

I don't think it is as simple as skilled/unskilled. Why can't they come here to gain skills?

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Maybe because currently we have a huge level of unemployment in the UK a lot of it youth and we need to concentrate on getting them into work??

How am I racist?? .......immigrants to the UK have been from all colours black, asian and white !!!

migrants who have little common with that countries indigenous white ethnic groups

Not saying you're racist, but really there was no need to put that word in was there?

just indigenous groups then (of whom most happen to be historically white christian)

Worrying that a party in Greece (The Golden Dawn party) policies include placing landmines on the Turkish border to stem immigration ... Has got around 8 % of the vote ... Doesn't sound a lot but then the biggest party is only showing around 18 % of the vote

Blame our Politicians for that.

All of them have continually ignored and allowed mass immigration and entire areas of european cities to become large slums filled by migrants who have little common with that countries indigenous white ethnic groups in relation to values and culture. Not to mention all the crime. Need I mention some areas in Brum for instance...

I dont know about anyone else but I dont want anybody coming to my country unless they are fleeing a war zone or have the required amount of skills that will benefit us such as doctors etc. Because Greece has no party who wants to focus on immigration they have turned to thi golden dawn lot who are offering street level protection.

I like your thinking. I'm going to stand as an MP next time on this very issue.

I promise to enforce the borders of anywhere north of Oxfordshire with guard posts and land mines. God forbid we should let the poor unskilled from the North down here.

Imagine it, ghettos of Scousers living in shanty towns on the outskirts of London..... how terrible.

Oh, and anyone who's not pale and ginger will be forcibly deported from whence they came. Can have them diluting the Purity of the race can we? Unless the know about medicine... or maybe represent the Homeland in some international sport.

The real threat to this country is from racist, bigoted, intolerant clearings in the woods like you.

How am I racist?? .......immigrants to the UK have been from all colours black, asian and white :bonk: !!!

Can this person be banned please? that last post contains personal abuse which is a clear breach of this sites rules 8)

Where do I say the Golden Dawn party is good?? left wing political correct attitudes like yours throughout the whole of europe in terms of not letting the other side of the argument voice their opinion has led to the extreme far right gaining ground as much as the economic crisis.

To quote the great Winston Churchill...

"The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists"

Worrying that a party in Greece (The Golden Dawn party) policies include placing landmines on the Turkish border to stem immigration ... Has got around 8 % of the vote ... Doesn't sound a lot but then the biggest party is only showing around 18 % of the vote

Blame our Politicians for that.

All of them have continually ignored and allowed mass immigration and entire areas of european cities to become large slums filled by migrants who have little common with that countries indigenous white ethnic groups in relation to values and culture. Not to mention all the crime. Need I mention some areas in Brum for instance...

I dont know about anyone else but I dont want anybody coming to my country unless they are fleeing a war zone or have the required amount of skills that will benefit us such as doctors etc. Because Greece has no party who wants to focus on immigration they have turned to thi golden dawn lot who are offering street level protection.

One night on the piss and they all of a sudden have a drink problem!!!

If they drink so much that they end up in nightclub fights, then yes, I'd say they DO have a drink problem.

One night of having too much to drink and having a row with someone constitutes them having a drink problem? :?

Yes, I think it does. You can have drink problems without being an alcoholic.

The general usage of the term 'social drinking' seems to have changed - many young people nowadays seem to consider that it includes getting wasted and behaving like an arsehole. I'd say that anyone who thinks that needs to take a long hard look at themselves. Anyone who thinks that AND is supposedly a professional sportsman needs to look twice as hard.

And no, I am not teetotal.

You act like getting pissed and having a fight is a new concept in Britain?? Then blame our young people of the current generation?

I dont seem to remember the Vikings, Romans or any other people who have lived on these lands acting any differently

I didn't say that. And you are quite correct. The British - and specifically, the English - have had this reputation for centuries (Jeremy Paxman's book 'The English' is very good on this).

What I was talking about was what people mean by 'social drinking'. A few beers/wines with your friends at home, in a restaurant or in a pub is how I understand it. Out on the lash in nightclubs (with the likelihood of aggro, especially if you are some sort of 'face') is a different ball game.

True.

Collins definetly needs to sort himself out though.