wokster

No chance we'll go down. We're too big a club to go down. Now Dunne's coming back, I think we'll start to look more solid in defence and we'll get out of it. There are too many poor sides in this league - we'll turn things around. 

I don't think sacking Lambert is the right move. He's a decent manager, we saw what he did with Norwich. He's had a very depleted side this season and now that some of our players are coming back, I think we'll start to pick up a few surprise points. I'm still very confident we'll stay up if PL stays in charge. Disappointed with the performance tonight but at least we can concentrate on the league.

There is almost no chance we're going down. Let's be honest. I've said this all along, even after the Bolton game, I never really saw us going down with Blackburn and QPR's run-ins.

I wouldn't be surprised if we finished 17th, but any lower is just not going to happen! QPR will get hammered by Man City on the last game of the season. I can't believe how much everyone was panicking - we've been awful yes, but were never going down.

Now we're safe, we might as well get behind the team (and Mcleish) for the last couple of games and let Randy make a decision in the summer.

I still stand by the fact that 37 points will see us safe. One more draw and we should be fine. Yes, it'd be nice to win a game and secure it, but I just can't see Blackburn or QPR catching us if we get another point.

QPR have got to be massive underdogs away at Spurs and Man City, and we're assuming they beat Stoke, which certainly isn't a gimme.

We'll finish 17th and stay up on goal difference.

Would people take 17th this season the way things are going?

Although this season has been one of the worst (if not the worst) in my living memory, I'm still willing to give AM a chance. He's been unlucky with injuries and given more time with the team, when our players return next season, I can see him guiding us back into the top half.

We can't forget that he led SHA to their highest finish in 50 years and won them their first proper trophy in their history with a squad far below the standard of ours. He took down Bruce's team in his first half season and once he'd got the team to gel, he got them instant promotion and had a 15 match unbeaten streak the following season, before winning the cup the next. If it wasn't for a lot of injuries (not dissimilar to ourselves) I'm sure he would have kept them up and gone down as the most successful manager in their history.

Give him a bit more time and he'll do the business. I'm predicting we'll finish 13th this season.

If the club goes down then it will be the game all the other teams want to win. They will all look at the fixture list for when Aston Villa are coming to town. Every teams highest attendance will be for the game against aston villa. The kings of the division in the same way newcastle were 2 years ago.

Look I am just trying to look at positives of relegation for when the inevitable happens next season.

Would you really say that is a positive though?

All the teams treating our games as a cup final is surely going to make it harder for us to get promotion. It's kind of happened with West Ham this season, with their team you'd expect them to get automatic promotion fairly easily. But everyone plays up against them because of their club size. I fear the same would happen to us if we go down.

Still, I'm about 90% sure we won't go down this season. Doing a pessimistic BBC predictor, I still had us safe getting 2 draws and 6 losses!

If there was a choice between getting relegated but then McLeish being sacked and us getting an exciting youngish manager in or staying in the Premiership but with McLeish, which would it be?

Staying up without a doubt. Imagine the embarrassment of going down. And there's no guarantee we'd make it straight back up.

If odds are as rubbish as you think, you should be a millionaire by your logic. If we're such certs to go down, why don't you put your mortgage on us at 12/1. Great profit.

The bookies odds aren't there for no reason. We're currently 12/1 to go down. Meaning it's about a 1 in 13 chance of us going down according to the people that make money from these sort of things. People have got to look at this realistically. There's less than a 10% chance of us going down.

Stop panicking people!

Weren't it 25/1 before this weekend or something like that? It's dropping further and further as the weeks go on.

Still, it's gone from a 4% chance to an 8% chance. Still very unlikely we'll go down. Who do you think knows more, the experts or us random punters?

The bookies odds aren't there for no reason. We're currently 12/1 to go down. Meaning it's about a 1 in 13 chance of us going down according to the people that make money from these sort of things. People have got to look at this realistically. There's less than a 10% chance of us going down.

Stop panicking people!

GET IN. GAME ON.

We're gonna draw this.

Come on, we're against a form team that have been playing very well recently. They just beat Benfica away for goodness sake. I fully expected us to lose with a team of kids playing. Just unfortunate that we've had all these injuries. Can't blame Mcleish here.

I don't understand the negativity from some posters. We just won, give Mcleish some credit. Even when we win, he gets criticised!

Well done Alex. I don't want him out, I think given time, he will get results.

UTV

Calm down everyone. We've got this one in the bag.

AM looks to have got the tactics spot on for once. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

my god blackburn are shite

hands up if you think we are gonna pay for being so wasteful

Nah, I reckon we'll win 3-1. Petrov and Zog with the other goals.

And people were seriously worried about us going down when there are teams as bad as Blackburn in the division. They really are horrendous. Having said that, we're playing well.

Even if I look at the games incredibly negatively, I can't see us not making 37 points. This is a very pessimistic prediction:

Wigan (A) - 1 point

Blackburn (A) - 1 point

Fulham (H) - 1 point

Bolton (H) - 3 points

Arsenal (A) - 0 points

Chelsea (H) - 1 point

Liverpool (A) - 0 points

Stoke (H) - 1 point

Man U (A) - 0 points

Sunderland (H) - 0 points

Baggies (A) - 1 points

Spurs (H) - 0 points

Norwich (A) - 0 points

That's guessing that we only win 1 more game this season in 13 games and we'd still probably finish safe. I'm pretty sure we'll pick up a strange win here or there though, à la Chelsea.

Mcleish does seem to have a knack of grinding out a random result here or there, so it's likely we could finish on about 42 points. Still, we finished on 64 points in the 09/10 season. Tragic how far we've fallen in such a small space of time.

I really don't see us losing to Everton tomorrow. I always feel confident going into a game against them.

I've put a bet on us to draw, because either way then I should be happy.

Hmm, I'm worried about this game for the first time in a long time playing sha in the league.

Looking at the starting line-ups, it hurts me to say it, but their team player for player is probably better than ours now. It's a sad day when I hear myself saying that. We need to invest heavily this January to set this right.