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About the 26th continuous renewal.

 

Can't understand people picking Laudrup,

 

He won 8, and lost 18 of Swansea's last 35 League games, after the Cup win (shades of Big Ron in 94)

 

and had them playing tiki-taka in much the same way as our esteemed late leader has had us playing since Christmas.  

I agree, and I was thinking exactly the same things. Does he address our problems? Nope.

 

I assume it's his hairstyle or something!

Can't understand people picking Laudrup,

He won 8, and lost 18 of Swansea's last 35 League games, after the Cup win (shades of Big Ron in 94)

and had them playing tiki-taka in much the same way as our esteemed late leader has had us playing since Christmas.  

A few years ago a poster on here (or another Villa site) who knew Allardyce, said that he would walk to Villa Park from Bolton for the job.

Not always been a big fan of his football, especially his spell at Blackburn but i think he would connect well with the fans,

and he has done a reasonable job at Bolton and West Ham, after being badly treated by Newcastle. Dont think he will be coming anyway.

Hoddle is well past it, though he briefly had Swindon playing superb stuff years ago.

We may only get a short term appointment.

The Middlesborough manager Karanca? would be a decent long term bet. But we cant afford any more mistakes. 

We had a Siamese that lived til she was 18.

Cross eyed and apparently the runt of the litter.

Expensive to run (liked Sardines and raw mince), but used used to knock the

front door letterbox when she wanted to come in, and was

a dab hand at climbing curtains.

We are talking about Cats aren't we ? 

Preferable to a Honey Badger..

 

 

MIAMI — Leaders of more than a dozen Caribbean countries are launching a united effort to seek compensation from three European nations for what they say is the lingering legacy of the Atlantic slave trade.

The Caribbean Community, a regional organization that typically focuses on rather dry issues such as economic integration, has taken up the cause of compensation for slavery and the genocide of native peoples and is preparing for what would likely be a drawn-out battle with the governments of Britain, France and the Netherlands.

Caricom, as the organization is known, has enlisted the help of a prominent British human rights law firm and is creating a Reparations Commission to press the issue, said Ralph Gonsalves, the prime minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, who has been leading the effort.

The legacy of slavery includes widespread poverty and the lack of development that characterizes most of the region, Gonsalves said, adding that any settlement should include a formal apology, but contrition alone would not be sufficient.

"The apology is important but that is wholly insufficient," he said in a phone interview Wednesday with The Associated Press. "We have to have appropriate recompense."

The notion of forcing the countries that benefited from slavery to pay reparations has been a decades-long quest. Individual countries including Jamaica and Antigua and Barbuda already had existing national commissions. Earlier this month, leaders from the 14 Caricom nations voted unanimously at a meeting in Trinidad to wage a joint campaign that those involved say would be more ambitious than any previous effort.

Each nation that does not have a national reparations commission agreed to set one up, sending a representative to the regional commission, which would be overseen by prime ministers. They agreed to focus on Britain on behalf of the English-speaking Caribbean as well as France for the slavery in Haiti and the Netherlands for Suriname, a former Dutch colony on the northeastern edge of South America that is a member of Caricom.

In addition, they brought on the British law firm of Leigh Day, which waged a successful fight for compensation for hundreds of Kenyans who were tortured by the British colonial government as they fought for the liberation of their country during the so-called Mau Mau rebellion of the 1950s and 1960s.

Attorney Martyn Day said his first step would likely be to seek a negotiated settlement with the governments of France, Britain and Netherlands along the lines of the British agreement in June to issue a statement of regret and award compensation of about $21.5 million to the surviving Kenyans.

"I think they would undoubtedly want to try and see if this can be resolved amicably," Day said of the Caribbean countries. "But I think the reason they have hired us is that they want to show that they mean business."

Caribbean officials have not mentioned a specific monetary figure but Gonsalves and Verene Shepherd, chairwoman of the national reparations commission in Jamaica, both mentioned the fact that Britain at the time of emancipation in 1834 paid 20 million pounds to British planters in the Caribbean, the equivalent of 200 billion pounds today.

"Our ancestors got nothing," Shepherd said. "They got their freedom and they were told `Go develop yourselves.'"

British High Commissioner to Jamaica David Fitton was quizzed on the issue Wednesday during a radio interview and said that the Mau Mau case was not meant to be a precedent and that his government opposes reparations for slavery.

"We don't think the issue of reparations is the right way to address these issues," Fitton said. "It's not the right way to address an historical problem."

In 2007, marking the 200th anniversary of the British prohibition on the transportation of slaves, then British Prime Minister Tony Blair expressed regret for the "unbearable suffering" caused by his country's role in slavery. After the devastating Haitian earthquake in January 2010, then French President Nicolas Sarkozy was asked about reparations for slavery and the 90 million gold francs demanded by Napoleon to recognize the country's independence. Sarkozy acknolwedged the "wounds of colonization," and pointed out that France had canceled a 56 million euro debt to Paris and approved an aid package that included 40 million euros in budget support for the Haitian government.

Gonsalves said far more needs to be done and he hopes to begin an "honest, sober and robust," discussion with the European governments soon and intends to champion the issue when he becomes the chairman of Caricom in January. "You have to seize the time," he said.

 

 

From Huff Post

 

Interesting...Nothing to do with being short of a bit of cash then.

I wonder which individuals would benefit from reperations !

Without wishing to minimise the effects of our past Colonialism / Imperialism, 

I presume he will now also be chasing up descendants of the native African slave traders,

who rounded up and sold kith and kin on to the Europeans.

Could we make a claim against those horrible Norman invaders, who imposed a form of Apartheid

in England for two hundred years?

May Stay, May Go. Depends on his brain cells and his agent. Will be gone within 12 months.

All that matters is the mighty Villa, and we get the right deal.   

Dare - Gorillaz, 

Nuts in May', isnt there a Blues reference in there somewhere.

Think those Pigs at the end maybe Tamworths also.

Not the best probably, but two faves. Withnail & I.  Kind Hearts and Coronets. Magic..

 

gave up on us going for someone this good and well-known a couple of weeks back. i am happy to believe that we were genuinely interested in this player, but didn't carry through with it for whatever reason. he's a cracking player but will probably end up at some top-half spanish/italian club in august. was fun whilst it lasted

 

I don't know why you've given up. Nothing's changed yet. He hasn't signed for anyone else afaik.

 

Not saying we'll be chasing this guy specifically, but he's probably one of our potential targets, and when we've shifted Bent and/or Ireland (or, heaven forbid, Benteke), I'm sure things will change pretty quickly.

 

Sounds Good.

Another 12 months and a large profit (to re-invest in other Bentekes), unless his agent is an idiot. 

Unfortunately that's the way it is

Luna Impressive Beard and general Spanishness,

Lets hope he's on. a par defensively with Kubicki, and Wright

... still think Bennett will be a good midfielder UTV,.

Hungry young players, low transfer fees, not 40k for some tart coasting it,

or some has been. Scouting players farther than West Midlands travelcard.

Whats not to like !  

Villa 5 Liverpool 1 in 1977. I think Liverpool were Champions and European Cup winners

that season, but they couldn't live with Gray, Little, & Deehan that night.

Seem to remember us doing Arsenal 5 - 1, and the Baggies 4 - 0 in that season also.

I was 11 and sitting in the Witton Lane stand for all of them - Great memory.

Just watched the football league show and was amazed to see Egdar Davids playing for some minnow .

Player / Manager at Barnet i think.

Hi everyone. Joined up to Villa Talk yesteday. What a great win today/yesterday!- Wished I went up now. A happy saturday have been too few on the ground this season. We could being clicking just at the right time now- either that or we will lose to Fulham. Brillant goal from Lowton and the whole side looks a threat going forward. Still a bit wobbly at the back though. Maybe just 2 more wins and a draw will see us through?

Welcome to Villa Talk. Please check your negativity at the door...(only joking)

Great result today, watched 2nd half in a Pub in Sutton, last ten minutes were mental, almost as good as being there....

Never too confident this season, but today might just have been a turning point

A couple more wins, and we might be there, here's hoping.  

Thanks for that. Good video. Lithuania are a large, physical side. Bannan can play against any opposition and as the statistics show, has great passing range.

 

He needs little defending, except for the fact when we lose he always gets the blame, even when he has nothing to do with any of the goals.

He's an honest player, attitude ok, generally works hard, and i've nothing against him.

Played well against Reading, and QPR, less so against Liverpool, but not at fault for everything.

Unfortunately he's not decent Premier League standard and never will be, Championship or SPL is more his level.

We have few options in the middle at the moment, and i guess thats why he gets games.

The fans are on his back in home games, and i cant see he has a future here, he's had enough chances.

But he's a symptom not the cause of our recent decline.

Out of interest have you been to any games at Home or Away this season ?

Great achievement by the Villa Youth, a balanced article in the Telegraph about the game

The Guardian article is all about some small filthy rich London club.

Up the Villa!

Yeah he's made some mistakes, but i think this been brewing since we gave free reign to Mr O'Neill.

The management have now cut too quick and too fast. i like PL even though he wasn't my first choice.

Could be good but we need to give him a chance, has til next Xmas if we go down. 

For me McLeish a was strange decision, (lack of knowledge by the board)  but supported him til Bolton home game. genuine bloke but diminishing returns

We are in the lap of the Gods now. Chronic mismanagement by the board, in particular over the last 3 years.

Great result in Next Gen. A shining light. Big Credit to Tony McAndrew who we've had for years (ex-Chelski), and has always done a top job,

Off to Norwich and Wigan, fingers crossed.. UTV...

Not great dropping into bottom 3, but at least Norwich, Sunderland, and Newcastle are a bit closer.

I think Sunderland are more likely to go than Wigan. Apparently they won 7 out of first ten under MON,

and 7 in 44 since. We need a point tomorrow minimum, to maintain momentum.

Newcastle's run-in is looking interesting also. My glass is still half full.  

Think we will go down, though we might get the odd decent result between now and the end of the season.

The non existent Midfield and chronic inability to defend for 90 minutes will see to us.

Watched the Everton game at the Pub, and at 3-1 i knew we were not safe. It was reminiscent of Swansea

on New Years day, which i went to. The Goal difference and points total don't lie.

I remember the last time we went down and this has all the hallmarks of that campaign.

I wouldn't sack Lambert, but he will need to get us up and running in the Championship straight away

or he will be on his bike by October. Going down could be a massive culture shock.

Positives are that we do have some some building blocks, but the team needs a few leaders.

Will Lerner and Faulkner realise that. 

I think Bannan suffers from Lee Hendrie disease.

 

Lee Hendrie was an attacking midfielder that linked nicely from defense to the forwards in front. And that is all. He couldn't tackle, couldn't defend, couldn't break up play - so don't ask him to as you'd be wasting your time.

 

Unsurprisingly, Lee had his best games with McCann behind him to do all the dirty work.

 

I think Bannan needs someone similar. Herd? Clark?

At least Hendrie could knock the odd goal in, and was Premiership level.

Bannan is symptomatic of the mess we are in - not good enough.

Listening to Mr Dougan from the Villa PR department on Radio WM before the match was classic stuff.

It seems we are building for the future, and have been unlucky with injuries. If only Petrov was OK.

If only we stay positive, everything will be fine.........Classic signs of denial all round.

Someone needs to tell them just because we drew 2-2 with Man Utd, three years ago,

and beat Liverpool this season, we dont have a host of worldbeaters on our books.

My impression is that they have massively inflated the quality of our youth system. 

Mr Lerner and his cohorts are sleepwalking us into the Championship, and possibly League 1.

Still think it will be Wigan, the GD will do us. I will be there. But they will raise our hopes !  Its the Villa.

This lot have all the hallmarks of 86-87, This lot, nice lads, not good enough. Last time we had some names, but were crap.

always remember. we are Aston Villa.