DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Kozak scored a hatrick in pre season and isn't good enough, that is a very good point. I wish Sherwood had signed Kozak, he'd be given plenty of time. The guy has played less than 20 games due to injury but is being written off. Hilarious.Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozak Pre season? **** hell, why didn't you say so. Get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Kozak scored a hatrick in pre season and isn't good enough, that is a very good point. I wish Sherwood had signed Kozak, he'd be given plenty of time. The guy has played less than 20 games due to injury but is being written off. Hilarious.Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozak Pre season? **** hell, why didn't you say so. Get him in. He has played less than 20 competitive games for us, it's weird how you can write him off and yet have complete faith in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Kozak scored a hatrick in pre season and isn't good enough, that is a very good point. I wish Sherwood had signed Kozak, he'd be given plenty of time. The guy has played less than 20 games due to injury but is being written off. Hilarious.Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozak Pre season? **** hell, why didn't you say so. Get him in. He has played less than 20 competitive games for us, it's weird how you can write him off and yet have complete faith in others. I don't have complete faith, in fact during the week i posted in the gestede thread about how utterly useless he'd looked so far. But tonight he and Ayew have shown reasons to keep persisting with them, and this comes days after the manager was insulted for doing just that over Libor Kozak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Kozak should be given a chance, just as others have done so. If our strikers again fail to score for long periods, Kozak should be given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozakPosted it in this thread as some were ready to send two brand new signings to the bench in favour of Kozak. You really think a few games with a new team and at a whole new level show they might not be worth persisting with? That's absolutely ridiculous. Both players have the potential to have a big impact on our season, Kozak doesn't. We've invested in both players and both are going to get the chance to continue to improve on good performances tonight. No i dont think a few games is enough. Thats the whole point. Im not trying to use short sample sizes like you are with this one performance with ayew/gestede as to why kozak should never be in the team. (weird you say its redic but you dont give the same treatment for kozak whos only played 14 games for us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozakPosted it in this thread as some were ready to send two brand new signings to the bench in favour of Kozak. You really think a few games with a new team and at a whole new level show they might not be worth persisting with? That's absolutely ridiculous. Both players have the potential to have a big impact on our season, Kozak doesn't. We've invested in both players and both are going to get the chance to continue to improve on good performances tonight. No i dont think a few games is enough. Thats the whole point. Im not trying to use short sample sizes like you are with this one performance with ayew/gestede as to why kozak should never be in the team. (weird you say its redic but you dont give the same treatment for kozak whos only played 14 games for us).What do you want me to use? It's a short sample size because that's all they've played. And tonight, days after the manager was told he was wrong to persist with them by some who favour kozak, they've both played a big part in winning an important game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2015 Gestede did little last night apart from show he can head a ball. Kozak still offers more in terms of movement and hold up play.Ayew looked great, but he played a totally different position.Kozak could still play a part in the meantime. And should have already played a part in our season.I think it's clear Sherwood doesn't rate him, so I'm beginning to doubt we'll ever see him play. Which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 It does seem that Tim doesn't rate Kozak at all - in the brief times I saw him play he looked decent. He might be awful in training who knows some players never recover from those kind of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozakPosted it in this thread as some were ready to send two brand new signings to the bench in favour of Kozak. You really think a few games with a new team and at a whole new level show they might not be worth persisting with? That's absolutely ridiculous. Both players have the potential to have a big impact on our season, Kozak doesn't. We've invested in both players and both are going to get the chance to continue to improve on good performances tonight. No i dont think a few games is enough. Thats the whole point. Im not trying to use short sample sizes like you are with this one performance with ayew/gestede as to why kozak should never be in the team. (weird you say its redic but you dont give the same treatment for kozak whos only played 14 games for us).What do you want me to use? It's a short sample size because that's all they've played. And tonight, days after the manager was told he was wrong to persist with them by some who favour kozak, they've both played a big part in winning an important game. So, basically, don't give Kozak a chance when Gestede/Ayew aren't playing well because Gestede/Ayew might come good. If they come good, Kozak gets nowhere near the team. However, when they're not doing well, keep persisting with them in the hope they come good rather than playing Kozak. Is that you, Tim? Edited September 23, 2015 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, I'll pass again thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, I'll pass again thanks.Nice to have Tim Sherwood on VillaTalk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shomin Geki Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, I'll pass again thanks.Nice to have Tim Sherwood on VillaTalk!I call dibs on Second Half Sherwood! (cue 'I'm Spartacus' chorus.)Yeah, I really don't rate Kozak, but I do feel a little bad for the chap. It seems dynamism is a big word for Sherwood, and Kozak's just a bit of a caravan in a race of coupes. Even lumpy dumpy Gestede hits into the dynamic paradigm, his surging head the desired destination of all the dreamed-of close passes, neat overlaps and whipped-in crosses. Tim clearly dreams of fast, aggressive, dynamic football. Not Kozak's forte.But then Sherwood sticks Clark in midfield with his Gunnersaurus-in-chains routine and I don't know what to think. Who else wants a go at being Tim? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Saying that Geki, Kozak managed to score goals in Sherwood's teams in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 That Gabby keeps getting picked and Kozak doesn't get a run is bordering on criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 wonder if Gabby is out whether he will make the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 wonder if Gabby is out whether he will make the bench.Well you know your answer now. He ain't getting a look in. Another stick to beat Sherwood with, but worthy in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Same story as Gil happening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Same story as Gil happening here.we scored 2 goals, dont think Kozak would have made a difference in that department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 wonder if Gabby is out whether he will make the bench.Well you know your answer now. He ain't getting a look in. Another stick to beat Sherwood with, but worthy in my opinion.least of my worries with Sherwood. I can deal with Kozak being out. Dont understand it but thats fine. His midfield selections and tactics... on the other hand....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If Gestede scores a brace, Kozak can't have any complaints really and neither can we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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