Stevo985 Posted July 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2015 I just think the praise some are doling out is more indicative of low expectations for the club. Who can seriously say they picture Kozak and think 'wow, that football lark's pretty awesome'? How many anticipate misty-eyed reminisces about his glorious heroics in five years time? I mean, seriously, be honest. And isn't that what football is about in many ways. As everyone keeps, correctly, saying, it ain't just about getting over the line, be that the goal line or the heady utopia of 17th place. How many people are expecting heroics? He was a cheap striker signed to be a decent backup to our obviously number one striker. And so far he's scored a fair few goals when he's played. He's a squad player. he doesn't need to be scoring 30 goals a season to be good enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Anyone got a link to his goal against Fulham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think people hold a subconscious grudge against him because they wanted an exotic attacking mid when we signed him and also think we wasted £7m on him when in reality it was more like £4m. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 We missed him last year that's for sure, under lambert when bentekes form was piss poor we had no options, he offers us something off the bench, the big mans looking tired of not playing well then get him off and get libor on, that's not something you would have said about andi, Sinclair or even gabby He's decent enough for the role that he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2015 The other thing is that none of us have really seen much of him. We've seen him play a handful of games for us, in a new league before he'd really settled in. That's not enough time for any of us to make a judgement on his ability. The fact that he did reasonably well in that time is very encouraging imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Good player. Edited July 13, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 He's barely played for us... ...yet I think he's my favourite player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 He isn't the best, most exciting player in the world but he is a great option, and has proven he can scores goals, give us something different. I am pretty confident if Kozak never broke his leg, we wouldn't have been fighting relegation last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 My guess is he will be sold in the next two years. Hope I'm proven wrong as he seems a good pro I just don't think he is actually that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Lowered expectations is back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted July 13, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2015 He is a better/more effective player than I think a lot of people give him credit for. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Good squad player. Definitely worth keeping as Gabby is horrendous as a goalscorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I dont think our play under Lambert didnt play to his strenghts. More balls in the box under sherwood i think he will shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shomin Geki Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I just think the praise some are doling out is more indicative of low expectations for the club. Who can seriously say they picture Kozak and think 'wow, that football lark's pretty awesome'? How many anticipate misty-eyed reminisces about his glorious heroics in five years time? I mean, seriously, be honest. And isn't that what football is about in many ways. As everyone keeps, correctly, saying, it ain't just about getting over the line, be that the goal line or the heady utopia of 17th place. How many people are expecting heroics? He was a cheap striker signed to be a decent backup to our obviously number one striker. And so far he's scored a fair few goals when he's played. He's a squad player. he doesn't need to be scoring 30 goals a season to be good enough. I mean, isn't it natural to expect something resembling heroics from a striker? Or is that squealing eight year old footie fan part of me worryingly strong? People often, in my view slightly peculiarly, compare the club to a regular place of employment. As someone who's managed a commercial environment I would love a sturdy, hard-working Kozak to be part of my team. But, Ikea we ain't. I just think at the level we want to be operating on it really does help to have either that swish of magic or the perseverance of an ox. Having said all this I am always 100% behind every Villa player and find much of the mouth-fuming regarding our boys to be pretty obnoxious. Make me love you, Kozak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I just think the praise some are doling out is more indicative of low expectations for the club. Who can seriously say they picture Kozak and think 'wow, that football lark's pretty awesome'? How many anticipate misty-eyed reminisces about his glorious heroics in five years time? I mean, seriously, be honest. And isn't that what football is about in many ways. As everyone keeps, correctly, saying, it ain't just about getting over the line, be that the goal line or the heady utopia of 17th place. How many people are expecting heroics? He was a cheap striker signed to be a decent backup to our obviously number one striker. And so far he's scored a fair few goals when he's played. He's a squad player. he doesn't need to be scoring 30 goals a season to be good enough. I mean, isn't it natural to expect something resembling heroics from a striker? Or is that squealing eight year old footie fan part of me worryingly strong? People often, in my view slightly peculiarly, compare the club to a regular place of employment. As someone who's managed a commercial environment I would love a sturdy, hard-working Kozak to be part of my team. But, Ikea we ain't. I just think at the level we want to be operating on it really does help to have either that swish of magic or the perseverance of an ox. Having said all this I am always 100% behind every Villa player and find much of the mouth-fuming regarding our boys to be pretty obnoxious. Make me love you, Kozak! You're not a squealing 8 year old anymore either, so you're incapable of looking past things like "ability" when judging a player. I remember a few older heads telling me that Ray Houghton wasn't all that for The Villa back in 92, but you would never have convinced my 9 year old self that we was anything but a god amongst men. I swear I once saw him score from 40 yards out. I've no idea what 32 year old me would think of Ray now. In fact, he drinks near to me in Camden and if I ever bump into him he might well be shocked by how much adulation I have for him. Kozak has a back story going for him anyway... Regardless of the environment, football clubs at every level need sturdy, hard working and reliable players. Especially those clearly capable of finding the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 His goal at weekend was well taken and good movement to create the space for the through ball from Joe Cole. Held the ball up reasonable well , some good touches and worked hard running across the line. Is it a world beater ..no but I think he is capable of getting goals and in a team that scored as few as we did last season that is a positive attribute to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think people hold a subconscious grudge against him because they wanted an exotic attacking mid when we signed him and also think we wasted £7m on him when in reality it was more like £4m. I think that's complete rubbish to be honest. Some people don't rate him 'cos he hasn't actually shown all that much to be honest when he has played. Personally I think he's okay, nothing great, can see why others would think differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 As our squad stands at the moment Benteke is the only player who I'd back to score more goals than Kozák, in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I just think the praise some are doling out is more indicative of low expectations for the club. Who can seriously say they picture Kozak and think 'wow, that football lark's pretty awesome'? How many anticipate misty-eyed reminisces about his glorious heroics in five years time? I mean, seriously, be honest. And isn't that what football is about in many ways. As everyone keeps, correctly, saying, it ain't just about getting over the line, be that the goal line or the heady utopia of 17th place. the old lower expectations argument is back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) As our squad stands at the moment Benteke is the only player who I'd back to score more goals than Kozák, in a season. Well if Benteke is scoring the goals than Kozak wouldn't be playing so I doubt he would score too many. Edited July 13, 2015 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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