Vive_La_Villa Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Mings for me. With no crowds you could always hear how vocal he was during games. A real leader. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbdrum88 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 It's gone be Hourihane or Nakamba. you heard it here first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, Mic09 said: If he picks Matty Cash and decides to play him as a no10, is that further evidence we did a switcheroo with Grealish? Sick in the citeh fans mouths when they realise they've been masturbating over the wrong calves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Emi Martinez. Guy is a winner. Leader. Has just won Copa America. Nuff said. And also our defence was a big mess. Then Emi Martinez arrived. Settled and calmed everyone down. Actually, it wasn't that big mess before he arrived. He's improved it, no doubt, by both his saves and his presence, but after the restart from the Covid break in 2020 our defence was a lot better. It was actually pretty solid and the biggest reason we could stay in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Mings for me. With no crowds you could always hear how vocal he was during games. A real leader. He’s vocal, i give him that much. I’d just much prefer Ty to cut the silly mistakes and lapses in concentration out of his own game rather than barking at others, for effect. Leaders do. Some of the most quietest leaders just play the game, total focus. If your ranting and raving but your own game is scratchy, then it’s just gimmicky. Edited August 13, 2021 by Johnnyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I think it can only be Mings this season? However I would say the two senior players in the 'leadership' group who are looking over their shoulders come next year are Mings and McGinn. Both need solid seasons. Personally I think the 1st Team improves with better performances from these two positions which might be from improved form from Mings or McGinn, or newer, more capable and progressive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: He’s vocal, i give him that much. I’d just much prefer Ty to cut the silly mistakes and lapses in concentration out of his own game rather than barking at others, for effect. Leaders do. Some of the most quietest leaders just play the game, total focus. If your ranting and raving but your own game is scratchy, then it’s just gimmicky. I don't see Ming's vocality as 'ranting and raving' and I don't suppose if Ty kept quiet during matches it would cut out his very occasional mistakes. I'll be surprised if Ming's isn't named captain, but trust Dean's reasons either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 For me i'd go: Captain - Mings Vice captains - McGinn and Martinez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Pelle said: Actually, it wasn't that big mess before he arrived. He's improved it, no doubt, by both his saves and his presence, but after the restart from the Covid break in 2020 our defence was a lot better. It was actually pretty solid and the biggest reason we could stay in the league. Who would you rather see leave? Who would be more difficult to replace? And what better way to acknowledge him and reward him is to give him the captaincy? No brainer for me. Edited August 13, 2021 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted August 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2021 Sometimes choosing a captain isn’t about how vocal they are, it’s more about leadership and how the squad sees that person. The decision is going to be more about what happens behind closed doors, on and off the training ground and how the rest of the squad sees that individual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I'd be shocked if it wasn't Mings. If it wasn't then McGinn even more so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 Mings is the moral leader of the team. He represents Villa well on and off the pitch. Was already vice captain. Why hasn't he been given the armband yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Am I the only one that thinks Mings wouldn't be the optimal choice for the job? Of course he is commanding - any elite CB has to be. But is that enough to be the captain? At the minute, for me it's Martinez that's the new Mr Aston Villa. Somehow he strikes me as someone who will be sitting there with Bailey and Ings and arranging for family meet ups to show them around Birmingham. Isn't that what a captain should do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Surprised this wasn't announced at the presser, Mings and McGinn obviously going to play every game when fit so surprised if DS was non-commital about it unless he's going to decide tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Mic09 said: Am I the only one that thinks Mings wouldn't be the optimal choice for the job? Of course he is commanding - any elite CB has to be. But is that enough to be the captain? At the minute, for me it's Martinez that's the new Mr Aston Villa. Somehow he strikes me as someone who will be sitting there with Bailey and Ings and arranging for family meet ups to show them around Birmingham. Isn't that what a captain should do? Aren't there usually two captains in a club structure e.g. one on the field and then a team captain who sorts stuff off the pitch for other players and also helps out with PFA. Yeah likes of Martinez or more likely Young would be ideal for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Deano “I have decided but I haven’t named it yet, I won’t be doing that until tomorrow. It’s not something I’ve wasted a lot of grey matter over, to be honest. “I think we’ve got some extremely strong candidates within the dressing room, that’s what I like about the squad now. “Tyrone Mings was vice-captain last year, John McGinn also vice-captain last year, Emi Martínez with the experience he’s shown, Ashley Young has come into the club, Ezri Konsa. “So we’ve got a really, really strong leadership group within the team. I’ll name the captain with the players tonight and we’ll move forward.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mic09 said: At the minute, for me it's Martinez that's the new Mr Aston Villa. Somehow he strikes me as someone who will be sitting there with Bailey and Ings and arranging for family meet ups to show them around Birmingham. The last thing we need is a new Mr Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 56 minutes ago, brommy said: I don't see Ming's vocality as 'ranting and raving' and I don't suppose if Ty kept quiet during matches it would cut out his very occasional mistakes. I'll be surprised if Ming's isn't named captain, but trust Dean's reasons either way. That is true too. I’d just like to see him look after his own game first, the rest can follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I like how Dean is going to announce this with the squad this afternoon: upping team morale and bonding, rather than blabbing it in the presser first or letting the captain know last week and losing that galvanising effect before the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: The last thing we need is a new Mr Aston Villa. Said it to a few mates, i think it held Liverpool back for a few years with Gerrard. He was getting bigger than the club but other areas of the squad were poor. We were becoming the same with Grealish. Nice depth to how we are now. Edited August 13, 2021 by Johnnyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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