HalfTimePost Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Quote The move, which runs the risk of stoking resentment among fans, will do away with the Association Football Club (AFC) moniker which has been part of the Yorkshire club's name since their formation in 1904. Revealing the move in the Hull Daily Mail, Egyptian-born businessman Allam said: "Hull City is irrelevant. "My dislike for the word 'City' is because it is common. "City is also associated with Leicester, Bristol, Manchester and many other clubs. "I don't like being like everyone else. I want the club to be special. Related Articles Bruce agrees £2.25 million deal for Davies 19 Jun 2013 "It is about identity. City is a lousy identity. Hull City Association Football Club is so long." Any references to AFC on club branding are to be phased out, although AFC will remain on the shirt crest during their first season back in the Barclays Premier League, before being removed from the 2014/15 campaign. According to the Mail's report, Allam wants to market the club as Hull City Tigers locally and Hull Tigers to national and international audiences. "In the commercial world, the shorter the name, the better. The more it can spread quickly," said Allam, who took over the Tigers in 2010 following their relegation from the top flight and whose investment is credited with saving the club from a significant financial crisis. "I have always used short names in business. It gives you power in the science in marketing. The shorter, the more powerful the message," he said. "In Tigers, we have a really strong brand." Allam's son and vice-chairman Ehab Allam defended the decision to drop AFC from the club's name after 109 years. "We have dropped the AFC as it is something which has become redundant," he said. "The identity of the club is the Tigers, the stripes, and the colour scheme of amber and black, which remains. "We just feel that, now being on the international stage, we need to strengthen the brand identity. "AFC is redundant, it is not used by the club, the fans never mention AFC, nor do the media. "We have dropped something that is redundant, that is of no value, and is of no use." However, Ehab Allam admitted the club could not force people to accept the rebrand. "People have the right to call the club what they like, it's their club," he said. "We are not going to fans and saying they all have to refer to us in the same way. "They call it what they like, we will do the same, but it is for commercial reasons that we are choosing this branding." Managing director Nick Thompson, meanwhile, sought to quell supporter upset over the change by urging them "to judge it in the fullness of time". Bernard Noble of the Hull City Official Supporters' Club admitted he was not entirely happy with the rebranding but nevertheless expressed support for Assem Allam. "My personal opinion is I'm disappointed because I'm a bit of a traditionalist," he told BBC Radio 5 Live. "But this guy saved us from liquidation and administration and it's his club. "I will still say 'I'm going to watch City', 'I'm going to watch the Tigers', 'I'm going to watch Hull'. I will still say that and so will many other people. "As far as Hull City Tigers is concerned, the fans - the 25,000 people who will be there for the first home game against Norwich - they'll say 'I'm off down to watch City'. "There will be disappointment there but I think we will realise that going into the Premier League we want to be a bit different, and he wants to be that bit different to get the business up and running. "He's a very, very successful businessman." I agree with him but it's one of those moves which can just annoy fans for no real reason. Meanwhile. Thankfully Aston Villa is still the most beautiful name in all of football.
CardiffGreens Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 I just hope this'll mean they'll be back playing in those tiger-striped kits of the 90's then... You're getting mauled by the tigers indeed... 2
LondonLax Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Meh. It's not as big a deal as MK Dons or even Cardiff 'reds'. 1
leviramsey Posted August 9, 2013 VT Supporter Posted August 9, 2013 Hull are now going to be the most successful club in Yorkshire over the past decade, aren't they? Losing the AFC part, though, means one fewer club that can be pointed to when the soccer debate comes up. 1
djamfisher Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Agreed LondonLax It's hard to explain why but I'd but really pissed off if Villa changed its name to Aston villa Lions. In the same way I find this story hilarious, but can't really explain why. maybe it's to do with the fact that football has always be a kind of traditional type of sport, that is very basic in its nature, and has not completely bought into the raz ma taz over the top stuff of American sports. Edited August 9, 2013 by djamfisher
AndyClarke Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Pretty disgraceful really and presumably about this guys ego, you can see from his comments that he just doesn't 'get it'. I imagine (and hope) Hull fans don't take this lying down.
leviramsey Posted August 9, 2013 VT Supporter Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Datapoint, the template for the NBC club-picking app/site I linked to is "the ${NICKNAME}s".The VillansThe SaintsThe CitizensThe TigersThe GunnersThe Red DevilsThe MagpiesThe PottersThe SpursThe BaggiesThe ToffeesThe HammersThe SwansThe Black CatsI couldn't bring myself to lie with an aim to be tagged a Chelsea or Liverpool fan on the questions they ask if you don't give your FB/Twitter profile, so I don't know what nicknames they came up with for Chelsea (though I'd probably bet on blues) and Liverpool (reds?). Edited August 9, 2013 by leviramsey
Stevo985 Posted August 9, 2013 VT Supporter Posted August 9, 2013 This remains the worst thing I've ever seen at a football match.
HalfTimePost Posted August 9, 2013 Author Posted August 9, 2013 I completely forgot about the absolute travesty that is that Tigers chant.
Zatman Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Datapoint, the template for the NBC club-picking app/site I linked to is "the ${NICKNAME}s". The Villans The Saints The Citizens The Tigers The Gunners The Red Devils The Magpies The Potters The Spurs The Baggies The Toffees The Hammers The Swans The Black Cats I couldn't bring myself to lie with an aim to be tagged a Chelsea or Liverpool fan on the questions they ask if you don't give your FB/Twitter profile, so I don't know what nicknames they came up with for Chelsea (though I'd probably bet on blues) and Liverpool (reds?). be Chelsea Pensioners and the Liverpool Historians 4
mjmooney Posted August 9, 2013 VT Supporter Posted August 9, 2013 Liverpool are "The Victims", aren't they? I just hope this'll mean they'll be back playing in those tiger-striped kits of the 90's then... They are indeed. 2
BOF Posted August 9, 2013 Moderator Posted August 9, 2013 It's one to piss off the traditionalists for sure, but it's one of the smaller rebrands and he's probably right in everything he says. Plus he's even realistic and pragmatic enough to say that the fans can still call them what they like and that he's not going to try and change that. He doesn't come across as a nutjob, just a savvy businessman.
The_Rev Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Serves em right for the Mauled by the Tigers chant. Poetic justice ftw. 1
ArteSuave Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 They brought this on themselves with that little dance routine. Deserve everything they get for that. 1
mjmooney Posted August 9, 2013 VT Supporter Posted August 9, 2013 When Rugby League did (pretty much en masse) this back in the 90s, I was amazed at how passively the fans took it. Bradford Northern --> Bradford Bulls (the club emblem used to be a ram, which made it even more of a bizarre choice) Leeds --> Leeds Rhinos (how shit is that?) Wakefield Trinity --> Wakefield Trinity Wildcats (clumsy compromise, keeping the perfectly-OK-in-itself "Trinity" as well as "Wildcats") Widnes --> Widnes Vikings (Vikings? In Lancashire?) ...and so on.
KennyPowers Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 They do sound like a rugby league team now but to be fair it doesn't make a lot of difference.
Stevo985 Posted August 9, 2013 VT Supporter Posted August 9, 2013 When Rugby League did (pretty much en masse) this back in the 90s, I was amazed at how passively the fans took it. Bradford Northern --> Bradford Bulls (the club emblem used to be a ram, which made it even more of a bizarre choice) Leeds --> Leeds Rhinos (how shit is that?) Wakefield Trinity --> Wakefield Trinity Wildcats (clumsy compromise, keeping the perfectly-OK-in-itself "Trinity" as well as "Wildcats") Widnes --> Widnes Vikings (Vikings? In Lancashire?) ...and so on. I dunno. I've been to Warrington and asked a load of Rugby League lads (my mate played for a local team there) if they "often went to see the Wolves" I thought they were going to slap me. And after having been to a game the fans very much still refer to the team as "The Wire".
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