nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, HongKongVillan said: But isn't point deductions punishment for owners even more? Potentially missing out on championship/Europe, therefore less money. Fans will turn on them even more so. But how do the fans then protest knowing if they do it again they’ll be punished while the owners that don’t even go to the game since 2017 care? Punishment is more for the fans... 9 minutes ago, HongKongVillan said: You and I know if this is for smaller EFL club this would have be treated a bit more differently by the likes of Carra and Neville. I completely agree but that doesn’t make what the Glazers do and also the ESL is the right thing. 11 minutes ago, HongKongVillan said: Not sure if the crime was for the protest, but I would say the crime was storming inside an mostly empty stadium with covid restriction still in place. What is a normal punishment when fans forces game to be abandon? I just the focus now is going to be on the idiots and not the vast majority of fans message and Glazers can get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mic09 Posted May 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: What’s the big deal??? Seriously? If there is no punishment, I say we get ourselves down to VP and protest on pitch until Grealish is recovered 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: What’s the big deal??? Seriously? How many people, staff and other agencies are needed to put on a premier league match? The cost is large and logistics complex but sod it, some morons are whining because their billionaire owners are billionaire enough and they haven’t won anything for a long time so that’s ok - boo effing hoo. Forfeiting the game would hurt the owners and fans alike. Suitable punishment in my opinion but nothing will happen to the club of any great consequence. Yeah still not a big deal. Those individuals still get paid and will be paid again when rescheduled. The cost will be at the club/owners expense, so yeah not a big deal. some morons whining? I guess you miss the message of the majority of their fans protesting and are focusing on the idiots again....just like Jones on Sky. Glad Carragher (who I’m not a fan of) said it perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted May 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2021 What are the actual rules regarding being unable to fulfil a fixture? Is it just forfeit and 3-0 to the other side? This situation should just be handled like any other game would be in the English leagues. It won't because it's Man It's and Liverpool but it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 2, 2021 Interesting that one of the papers today said that United's primary sponsor are said to be seething about the way in which the ESL incident and fan protests devalues the deal they've signed with their brand. I would imagine that the biggest shareholder in the company that signed that £750m deal with United is particularly unhappy to have discovered about their plans given that he's Nassef Sawiris. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, nick76 said: I hate Man U as much as the next guy and yes a few idiots did a few idiot things but I can feel for the majority of those fans who love their club. Owned by the Glazers and the final straw was the ESL which we can agree on. Don’t deserve points deduction and I stand with the majority of their fans because we’ve been there for different reasons and glad they are standing up to the ESL as well. The glazers. Awful owners spending a billion pounds on transfers over the last 10 years. Utd fans are the most entitled arseholes around. Points deduction and european fan for the words removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, GingerCollins29 said: The glazers. Awful owners spending a billion pounds on transfers over the last 10 years. Utd fans are the most entitled arseholes around. Points deduction and european fan for the words removed Jesus wept! I knew why I decided to leave this board a week ago. Silly me for coming back on hoping my fellow villa were supporting other fans, guess I was wrong to come back on tonight and right to leave the board a week ago! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Going to be nice when they sell up to The House of Saud. Fernandes has his hand cut off for stealing points from yet another dubious penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Lichfield Dean said: What are the actual rules regarding being unable to fulfil a fixture? Is it just forfeit and 3-0 to the other side? The key is in "being unable to fulfil a fixture". For example, there was a concert not too long ago where it snowed heavily on the day, the police advised people not to travel but refused to insist that the concert was cancelled as they didn't want the negative press. The venue didn't want to pay out on their insurances, so they put pressure on the band to cancel the show, the band refused, because their insurers wanted the venue to pay out, and because if they played the gig they'd be paid by the record company - in the end with neither side standing down the gig went ahead with about 15% attendance, people were furious, many couldn't get home and the band blamed the venue in the press thereafter. Behind the scenes in Manchester right now, the League, the TV companies and the police will have lawyers making sure it's absolutely clear who called the game off and why, the pressure will most likely fall on the police - if United called it off, they'll be punished, if the league called it off they'll owe money to Sky - I think it's really unlikely that either United or the Premier League will take responsibility for calling off the game and it'll rest with the police, but I can guarantee there's a bloke from an insurance company with a sweat on right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, nick76 said: Jesus wept! I knew why I decided to leave this board a week ago. Silly me for coming back on hoping my fellow villa were supporting other fans, guess I was wrong to come back on tonight and right to leave the board a week ago! Silly indeed. A forum is all about opinion but if you don’t like reading others views then take another sabbatical. shame you feel that way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: Silly indeed. A forum is all about opinion but if you don’t like reading others views then take another sabbatical. shame you feel that way though. I love views, debate, discussion, other opinions and involved elsewhere in other topics but people with agendas and trolling impact the enjoyment of some websites for a lot of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 My gf hates everything about football, she’s the sort of person that moans and leaves the room when I watch it. Even she was watching sky today when I explained what it was all about. Whether or not you agree with it, this is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, nick76 said: I love views, debate, discussion, other opinions and involved elsewhere in other topics but people with agendas and trolling impact the enjoyment of some websites for a lot of people. Who is trolling with an agenda?!? if it is impacting your enjoyment then take a break from it. I rarely venture beyond Off Topic nowadays... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieZ Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 HuffingtonPost headline is "Manchester Ignited". Well played. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: I love views, debate, discussion, other opinions and involved elsewhere in other topics but people with agendas and trolling impact the enjoyment of some websites for a lot of people. 100%. I was accused yesterday of not liking different views because I called out a troll in the match thread. Opinions and posting for a response are two totally different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Who is trolling with an agenda?!? In some of the On Topic stuff. I will mainly just be Off Topic if I do come on now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: In some of the On Topic stuff. I will mainly just be Off Topic if I do come on now Shame if you stop posting. I agree with some of the On Topic (and match thread) content though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 They didn't just protest. They smashed stuff and attacked the police. Really should be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, nick76 said: Jesus wept! I knew why I decided to leave this board a week ago. Silly me for coming back on hoping my fellow villa were supporting other fans, guess I was wrong to come back on tonight and right to leave the board a week ago! What? You're unhappy because i think united fans are entitled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, av1 said: My gf hates everything about football, she’s the sort of person that moans and leaves the room when I watch it. Even she was watching sky today when I explained what it was all about. Whether or not you agree with it, this is huge. Don't disagree that it's huge Just think that the ESL and everything it represents is the long awaited cherry on top after 30 years of watching money dominate football And for 20 years it was man utds money So no I don't have an ounce of sympathy for their fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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