Genie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, gwi1890 said: Yes they where the first to do it, poaching Cole and Yorke then a massive fee at the time for Wayne Rooney, and Veron they created the blueprint Don’t forget £30m for a centreback 18 years ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Bizarre scenes at Old Trafford fans on the pitch flares being set off and looks like they will be trying to stop the team arriving at the ground to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 All probably been staged by the club, poor us, the fans have already punished us, no further action required, scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: All probably been staged by the club, poor us, the fans have already punished us, no further action required, scum. If so, fair enough (no blame on the fans) but if not then there's gonna be a few P45s heading to the security team, even if they were threatened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, mottaloo said: If so, fair enough (no blame on the fans) but if not then there's gonna be a few P45s heading to the security team, even if they were threatened. I know, how embarrassing for the them stewards lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnnyp Posted May 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2021 Collymore is reporting on this like he's on the frontline in 90s war torn Sarajevo. 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Please sell them to a Xia character who bankrupts them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Django_Zooms Posted May 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2021 Shocking scenes; Manchester United fans actually in Manchester. Surely, they are too tired to protest after the long drive from Surrey? 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 All these clubs around the country that are on their arses cos of covid and these scallys have broken into a ground and are protesting against owners they don't like. Hopefully a points deduction will be forthcoming and removal from any European qualification for next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 40 minutes ago, Talldarkandransome said: All these clubs around the country that are on their arses cos of covid and these scallys have broken into a ground and are protesting against owners they don't like. Hopefully a points deduction will be forthcoming and removal from any European qualification for next season. I hate Man U as much as the next guy and yes a few idiots did a few idiot things but I can feel for the majority of those fans who love their club. Owned by the Glazers and the final straw was the ESL which we can agree on. Don’t deserve points deduction and I stand with the majority of their fans because we’ve been there for different reasons and glad they are standing up to the ESL as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 40 point deduction is only fair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: 40 point deduction is only fair Joking aside there must be some tangible punishment for failing to host the game. If it wasn’t Liverpool as the opponents I’d suggest they forfeit the 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: I hate Man U as much as the next guy and yes a few idiots did a few idiot things but I can feel for the majority of those fans who love their club. Owned by the Glazers and the final straw was the ESL which we can agree on. Don’t deserve points deduction and I stand with the majority of their fans because we’ve been there for different reasons and glad they are standing up to the ESL as well. I don't think you do hate them as much as the next guy It doesn't help that part of my belief, all this greed, all this money, the sponsors the partners, FFP, all these football club business models all stems from utds global expansion in the 90s, a huge chunk of what modern football is is because of them, laporta even said as much, the slippery slopebtonthos bullshit is because of man utd, they benefitted from it for 2 decades, let them suffer from it now **** them and their fans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: Joking aside there must be some tangible punishment for failing to host the game. If it wasn’t Liverpool as the opponents I’d suggest they forfeit the 3 points. Yeah hurt the fans again Why not target the owners instead. If you deduct, you harm the owners slightly but more the fans who then are basically being told they can’t protest because it will hurt the team thus benefitting the owners because they can do what they want knowing their fans won’t protest in the future in case they lose points. Talk about the wrong penalty for the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Yeah hurt the fans again Why not target the owners instead. If you deduct, you harm the owners slightly but more the fans who then are basically being told they can’t protest because it will hurt the team thus benefitting the owners because they can do what they want knowing their fans won’t protest in the future in case they lose points. Talk about the wrong penalty for the crime. No it shouldn't be punished by point deduction normally. But in Man Utd's case i would make an exception for altentative reasons. Edited May 2, 2021 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: Yeah hurt the fans again Why not target the owners instead. If you deduct, you harm the owners slightly but more the fans who then are basically being told they can’t protest because it will hurt the team thus benefitting the owners because they can do what they want knowing their fans won’t protest in the future in case they lose points. Talk about the wrong penalty for the crime. Hurt the ‘fans’??? It was the fans that caused the postponement and the club failed to prevent it happening. Theres nothing wrong with protesting but they took it too far today... I would have zero sympathy for the fans if a punishment of forfeiting the game was handed out. it’s a moot point as nothing will happen as it’s ManUre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted May 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Yeah hurt the fans again Why not target the owners instead. If you deduct, you harm the owners slightly but more the fans who then are basically being told they can’t protest because it will hurt the team thus benefitting the owners because they can do what they want knowing their fans won’t protest in the future in case they lose points. Talk about the wrong penalty for the crime. But isn't point deductions punishment for owners even more? Potentially missing out on championship/Europe, therefore less money. Fans will turn on them even more so. Not sure if the crime was for the protest, but I would say the crime was storming inside an mostly empty stadium with covid restriction still in place. What is a normal punishment when fans forces game to be abandon? You and I know if this is for smaller EFL club this would have be treated a bit more differently by the likes of Carra and Neville. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: I don't think you do hate them as much as the next guy It doesn't help that part of my belief, all this greed, all this money, the sponsors the partners, FFP, all these football club business models all stems from utds global expansion in the 90s, a huge chunk of what modern football is is because of them, laporta even said as much, the slippery slopebtonthos bullshit is because of man utd, they benefitted from it for 2 decades, let them suffer from it now **** them and their fans Yeah the glory fans I agree but there are many many fans like you and me that travel the country and loving our team morning, noon and night for all our lives. I have friends all around the country who support various teams like I do Villa and I feel their pain when they go through as they do my pain when we go through stuff. I agree the football model has exploded in the last 30 years but a lot of us fans are still the same. Yes some clubs have done very well from it like Man U, City and Chelsea but that’s not the individual fans fault that were there before this or who are true supporters and not glory/fair weather supporters. We want our football back, we want our clubs back and this ESL has pushed it too far and fans are rebelling....I stand with them all, whatever club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Hurt the ‘fans’??? It was the fans that caused the postponement and the club failed to prevent it happening. Theres nothing wrong with protesting but they took it too far today... I would have zero sympathy for the fans if a punishment of forfeiting the game was handed out. it’s a moot point as nothing will happen as it’s ManUre. So a game is postponed, what’s the big deal? Some idiots took it took far I agree but the message was right. The problem, as Carragher said, is the focus in the media now and it seems some other fans, is on the idiot side and not the message the vast majority of fans was trying to portray. Every protest has idiots who the police should deal with but the focus now should be on the message from the vast majority. owners punished but not the team. If you don’t agree with that, that’s your choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: So a game is postponed, what’s the big deal? Some idiots took it took far I agree but the message was right. The problem, as Carragher said, is the focus in the media now and it seems some other fans, is on the idiot side and not the message the vast majority of fans was trying to portray. Every protest has idiots who the police should deal with but the focus now should be on the message from the vast majority. owners punished but not the team. If you don’t agree with that, that’s your choice. What’s the big deal??? Seriously? How many people, staff and other agencies are needed to put on a premier league match? The cost is large and logistics complex but sod it, some morons are whining because their billionaire owners are billionaire enough and they haven’t won anything for a long time so that’s ok - boo effing hoo. Forfeiting the game would hurt the owners and fans alike. Suitable punishment in my opinion but nothing will happen to the club of any great consequence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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