Greenfly Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, momo said: Same amount Smith got, and Villa still are fighting against relegation. They've had the opportunity to use that money to buy world class talent. We've had to use it to build practically a whole team. Different gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Greenfly said: They've had the opportunity to use that money to buy world class talent. We've had to use it to build practically a whole team. Different gravy. 80 M on Maguire. Pure and utter madness. He isn't anything better than Chris Smalling and Jonny Evans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Greenfly said: They've had the opportunity to use that money to buy world class talent. We've had to use it to build practically a whole team. Different gravy. 3 hours ago, Genie said: Much different starting points though, and wage bills. Ole is building a new team too. Fewer players because they are more expensive. He has to sustain a team fighting at the top while doing the restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 We've both bought some shit We've both had mental issues, us with confidence and them with no one giving a **** Their biggest issue is that football is cyclical and fergie gave them too many years at the top, now they've dropped off and their newer fans can't understand it, Woodward is great at what he should be doing and **** terrible at what he shouldnt be doing, the glaziers are an easy target and have mugged them off but they still have all the tools to succeed, if they had thinner skin then Woodward would have gone by now but I don't think the glaziers really care, as long as they get their % then they can measure success in a different way to the fans I don't think you can ignore the role FFP has played either, utd asked for it because they're the club with the biggest revenue streams, they're the club that have gone beyond stupid with official partners and now they're the club that has the owners that take the most revenue out and is suffering the most because the owners can see their potential as a cash cow, it's a beautiful thing Utd created all their own problems, too successful, too big, too much money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Genie said: The should appoint a winner, a serial winner. This is the pinnacle of football management. I'm not sure they can really claim to be a real top tier club these days. I mean, they're still massive, and one of the most well known, but in the next few years they're getting nowhere near Man City/Liverpool. Chelsea are in the ascendancy again. This will mark 8 years since winning the league, they've not won the CL in 12 years. It's been 3 seasons without even winning a domestic cup. They're not at the pinnacle of English football, now lets bring the European elite clubs in to it. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn my nose up at Villa having seasons like Man United's "failure" years over the past few seasons, but the Famous Man United they ain't. Edited September 21, 2020 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I'm not sure they can really claim to be a real top tier club these days. I mean, they're still massive, and one of the most well known, but in the next few years they're getting nowhere near Man City/Liverpool. Chelsea are in the ascendancy again. This will mark 8 years since winning the league, they've not won the CL in 12 years. It's been 3 seasons without even winning a domestic cup. They're not at the pinnacle of English football, now lets bring the European elite clubs in to it. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn my nose up at Villa having seasons like Man United's "failure" years over the past few seasons, but the Famous Man United they ain't. They're basically what Liverpool were in the 90s/00s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Fun Factory Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 21/09/2020 at 14:52, Davkaus said: I'm not sure they can really claim to be a real top tier club these days. I mean, they're still massive, and one of the most well known, but in the next few years they're getting nowhere near Man City/Liverpool. Chelsea are in the ascendancy again. This will mark 8 years since winning the league, they've not won the CL in 12 years. It's been 3 seasons without even winning a domestic cup. They're not at the pinnacle of English football, now lets bring the European elite clubs in to it. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn my nose up at Villa having seasons like Man United's "failure" years over the past few seasons, but the Famous Man United they ain't. They won't until they get new owners. The glazers take millions out of the club and they don't look after it. Old Trafford is looking shabby these days. In fairness to Fergie he squeezed the last couple of titles out on ageing team and papered over the cracks really. Since then they have chucked a load of money around with vastly different coaches and have been nowhere near the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) This weakened team they have out cost well over £300m to assemble. Weakened Luton are the better team. Edited September 22, 2020 by Kuwabatake Sanjuro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Solskjaer is so far out of his depth it's unbelievable. Luckiest man on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 How much of their yearly expenditure goes to bribes and paying off the FA and refs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) WTF have i just seen. Is this the voodoo that brings them all that luck Edited September 26, 2020 by BleedClaretAndBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 'Siri, find me an image that sums up Manchester United for me' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Farce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Apparently got a 90 M bid rejected for Sancho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: Apparently got a 90 M bid rejected for Sancho. Thank God Jack signed his contract. If Ole genuinely thinks Sancho is worth £90 million then he deserves what coming. Anyone remember when they were boasting they were going to buy some players on the cheap because of the covid outbreak affecting other clubs finances. Did they not realise that they would be one of the biggest losers of revenue with the grounds closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 10 hours ago, mykeyb said: Thank God Jack signed his contract. If Ole genuinely thinks Sancho is worth £90 million then he deserves what coming. Anyone remember when they were boasting they were going to buy some players on the cheap because of the covid outbreak affecting other clubs finances. Did they not realise that they would be one of the biggest losers of revenue with the grounds closed? Dont think Ole has any say in it. Its a position United dont really need to fill but a little bit of a vanity signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, Zatman said: Dont think Ole has any say in it. Its a position United dont really need to fill but a little bit of a vanity signing its a look at us we're still competing go buy his shirt type signing they've been making them for years woodward must really be good in board meetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, villa4europe said: its a look at us we're still competing go buy his shirt type signing they've been making them for years woodward must really be good in board meetings I think Sancho would be a great signing in their counter attacking set up. But imo counter attacking football can only take you so far. It's why i think Wolves will never achieve top 4 under Nuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I think Sancho is a great player who they don't really need but will generate a huge amount of buzz around the club and sell shirts, grealish was exactly the same if they're going to spend £100m on that squad it has to be on the defence, maguire has proved to be an awful piece of business, utd wont go 4th to 1st with attacking players, no way, its not their weakness, they need maybe 2 CBs and a better LB and alex telles for £35m isn't the answer either none of utd's defence, keeper or holding midfielder makes the city or Liverpool team, their back 4 would struggle to get in those squads let alone start 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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