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9 hours ago, bobzy said:

Any manager who has done badly at one club but well at another will be thought of as shit by one sets of fans and good by another.

Rocket science it **** isn't.

Plenty of managers have relegated clubs and the fans have had a positive impression of that, including Cardiff with Warnock.

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It was too early for him to manage in England when he turned up at Cardiff. Think Vincent Tan was just seduced by his name. It was similar to us appointing Di Matteo and the championship quickly swallowed him up aswell.

We of course were seriously considering him as our next manager the summer we eventually appointed Lambert. That was 18 months before he turned up at Cardiff which shows what another disaster Lerner appointment he would've been.

Worth remembering that same season Fulham went down with Felix Magath and he was even worse than OGS in the championship! That's a guy who's managed most of the big clubs in Germany and won a few Bundesligas.

Man. United have been incredibly inconsistant this season. One week they win at Man. City, the next they then lose to Watford.

Will probably be the same next season. Ultimately they're a long way away from any title challenge these days.

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53 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said:

Plenty of managers have relegated clubs and the fans have had a positive impression of that, including Cardiff with Warnock.

Conte, Wenger and Klopp?😉

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the cynic is me says Bellingham is a typical woodward signing, buying the best youth prospect in England for a large sum of money, we're man utd we're still relevant

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Fair play to them have turned it around recently. Shows that they still have that massive lure for players. 

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On 09/03/2020 at 23:44, VillaChris said:

It was too early for him to manage in England when he turned up at Cardiff. Think Vincent Tan was just seduced by his name. It was similar to us appointing Di Matteo and the championship quickly swallowed him up aswell.

We of course were seriously considering him as our next manager the summer we eventually appointed Lambert. That was 18 months before he turned up at Cardiff which shows what another disaster Lerner appointment he would've been.

Worth remembering that same season Fulham went down with Felix Magath and he was even worse than OGS in the championship! That's a guy who's managed most of the big clubs in Germany and won a few Bundesligas.

Man. United have been incredibly inconsistant this season. One week they win at Man. City, the next they then lose to Watford.

Will probably be the same next season. Ultimately they're a long way away from any title challenge these days.

Di Matteo had a track record of championship promotion with Baggies

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2 hours ago, VillaJ100 said:

Di Matteo had a track record of championship promotion with Baggies

RDM had the championship and CL on his CV, that was the whole 5 year plan thus man can do it all thing 

I dint remember too many us objecting to him either, certainly not many saying just how bad he was

And I'm not suggesting I rate him but comparing the utd job to the Cardiff job is a bit pointless imo utd have a team of good players who are underperforming and inconsistent, they need their bollocks tickled in order to perform every week and get the CL, its a different skill set to the one required to drag a bunch of cloggers out of the championship 

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Manure thinking they can get Fede Valverde from Real Madrid :crylaugh:

About as likely as we buying Pogba from them.

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Was is it every year Sky Sports seem to have some national day of celebration of the Macheda game against us???? I know not much to talk about at the moment but its 11 years on and another article about it....

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11969791/federico-macheda-eleven-years-on-from-italians-famous-impact-at-man-utd

 

"Machedaaaa!" - Martin Tyler's screech said it all. Eleven years on, we take a look back at Federico Macheda's famous impact at Manchester United.

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Lol 'famous impact' he scored a couple of goals as a late sub against an average prem team, f'ing take a bow Maradona 

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1 hour ago, VillaJ100 said:

Lol 'famous impact' he scored a couple of goals as a late sub against an average prem team, f'ing take a bow Maradona 

It was the goal that probably won them the league, we were also 2nd at one point in February that season. Hardly average

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4 hours ago, Zatman said:

It was the goal that probably won them the league, we were also 2nd at one point in February that season. Hardly average

Youngest player to score a goal in the Premier League for Man U and Gary Neville didn't even know it. 

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Quarterly figures released today and the BBC says this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52759246

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Revenues for the quarter fell by 18.7% to £123.7m. The club's debt rose by £124.4m to £429.1m.

That's got to be a mistake hasn't it?

If their debt rose by more that they earned in a quarter they're in massive trouble - I'm sure their debt was over £400m anyway - have the Beeb misplaced a decimal point?

 

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Apparently not - something to do with the cash they previously had in hand being reduced with last summers signings. 

It's ridiculous that we have rules that restrict clubs from spending because their billionaire owner hasn't been able to find an official tyre sponsor and his own money isn't acceptable, but that the club with the largest debt in the league can happily bang on about how they'll take advantage of a global pandemic to pick up the players that they want. 

The game is a nonsense. 

 

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They have about a £200 m deficit in transfer dealings with various clubs. No idea if that's included in those numbers?

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Meh I remember when it was about 700m in debt. Bring back those days I say. I wonder if official combine harvester sump gasket partners are going to be paying up during covid? 

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On 08/04/2020 at 07:41, leighavfc said:

"Machedaaaa!" - Martin Tyler's screech said it all. Eleven years on, we take a look back at Federico Macheda's famous impact at Manchester United.

Tyler used to be a semi decent commentator before he became a word removed who started overcelebrating goals. 

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Gone down the zebre route and suing football manager for use of their name

Claim that FM benefits from an association with their winning culture and brand values

🙄😂 

 

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23 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Gone down the zebre route and suing football manager for use of their name

Claim that FM benefits from an association with their winning culture and brand values

It's a weird case, the judge has said that as they've allowed FM to use the name Manchester United for 20 years and they've worked alongside FM in promoting the game and worked with their scouts, that they've already accepted use of the name in the game.

So what United are saying is that FM shouldn't be using the name without the club crest as the owners of the club crest (which I'm assuming is United) are being deprived of proper marketing value when it's replaced by a generic red and white shield.

Utd seem to saying that it's okay for Fm to keep using the name seeing as they have been for the last 20 years, but they should be legally forced to use the correct crest next to the name and they should have to pay through the nose for that.

I think we'll see a lot of this as clubs dig around for money. 

 

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2 hours ago, villa4europe said:

Gone down the zebre route and suing football manager for use of their name

Claim that FM benefits from an association with their winning culture and brand values

🙄😂 

 

winning culture :detect:

Maybe us and Watford, blues and Reading and few others can sue for similar association to winning culture ;) 

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