Genie Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Its a huge mess at United, from top to bottom, and it'll take a long time to sort out. Even in recent times they're not putting the brakes on what everyone can see are stupid decisions. The mega money contract extensions for players not cutting it. Seems like Ed Woodward is a big part of the problem so I'd start there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Glorious, isn't it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Since OGS got appointed permanent manager they've taken on average 1 point per game, that's relegation form. I actually have no idea where they will finish, could be anywhere from 6th to 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, The_Rev said: Glorious, isn't it? Yup, they're a mid-table club on merit now. They have the outgoings of a top side too. Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Since OGS got appointed permanent manager they've taken on average 1 point per game, that's relegation form. I actually have no idea where they will finish, could be anywhere from 6th to 16th. They'll beat us of course, that's a given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, Genie said: They'll beat us of course, that's a given. You're not wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 How long will it take for them to finish midtable for all the official combine harvester hydraulic fluid partners etc to melt away? That's when the irreversible damage will come. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 OGS is massively out of his depth but clearly only part of the problem. Their board is the main issue and their players are also poor. In particular I have to say Rashford is appalling, no where near good enough and after > 170 games for them he has proved that, no football brain and cannot finish. Stick with players like that and you will win nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Their recruitment has been appalling in the last few years and that's the root of the probelm. Couple that with keeping poor players like Jones, Smalling, Lingaard all on huge wages and you have a serious disaster. They need to get Ponchettino in next summer and give him £250m to spend. That might get them back in the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I also don't rate Maguire that highly. He's another Jagielka. Solid defender by any means, but nothing special. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Solid defender by any means, but nothing special. That's what you get for £80m these days. There just aren't any great defenders available anymore. Look at De Ligt, everyone thought he was the second coming, a bargain at £65m and he's been horrendous for Juve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 They need someone with power at the club, but who is also interested. OGS seemed to understand the issue last year. He talked about the bad culture and a clearout required of certain "types" of players (personalities). It hasn't happened for whatever reason. Has EW tied his hands? If you're going to drop out of the CL for ma few seasons then you need to rebuild and come back fitter. I think Jose could have been a good fit there if they backed him, and he wanted to be there. He could have cleared out the overpaid shite like Rashford, Lingard, Pogba, Jones, Smalling, Young etc and built something like he did at Chelsea first time round. Problem was JM was the same as the players they bring in, not really wanting to be there but they offered too much money to turn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, villa89 said: That's what you get for £80m these days. There just aren't any great defenders available anymore. Look at De Ligt, everyone thought he was the second coming, a bargain at £65m and he's been horrendous for Juve. Man United have 60 scouts at the club. 60!!!! There is no excuse for them blowing £80m on an extremely average central defender. There's literally millions of footballers to chose from, and MU have the money and status to attract 99.9% of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: I also don't rate Maguire that highly. A Mings times 3 apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 So, after all that writing them off Poch will get the managers job next month and they’ll win the league within three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Talk about bringing Zlatan back in January among their fans. Still only 38 by then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, sne said: Talk about bringing Zlatan back in January among their fans. Still only 38 by then... Would still do a better job than Rashford and Martial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: Would still do a better job than Rashford and Martial. Yeah he wouldn't be a bad short term fix at all. Still fiercely competitive and strong and still has an eye for goal. Lost a bit of spring in his step thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I don't know what is worse, spunking £100s of millions on washed up mercenaries or going into the season as Martial and Rashford as your No.9s. About as criminal as Bruce going into the season with 1 CB. So far out of his depth it is frightening that someone actually gave him a contract. He should lose his job along with the entire board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Would be utterly amusing if Real ended up sacking Zidane (along with his £80m compensation package) and replaced him with Mourinho. Leaving the door open for Manure to sack OGS (and his no doubt hefty compensation package) and replace him with Zidane. Unlikely but not impossible with Florentino Perez and Woodward involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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