rjw63 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Could Mark Hughes be first manager to manage 2 relegated sides in a season? Billy McNeil already did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Lambert has always talked complete garbage. One of that wave of managers who are positive for the sake of being positive. Guaranteed to completely annoy the ever loving **** out of every supporter in the land. Fine line between protecting your players, keeping them onside and talking complete and utter waffle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted April 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, rjw63 said: Billy McNeil already did that Didn't Villa Legend Ron Saunders also manage Blose and The Baggies in a season both got relegated? The man really did everything for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Lambert has always talked complete garbage. One of that wave of managers who are positive for the sake of being positive. Guaranteed to completely annoy the ever loving **** out of every supporter in the land. Fine line between protecting your players, keeping them onside and talking complete and utter waffle. In this instance, though, it wasn't utter waffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Has said the players have been brilliant since he came in and not let him down yet. The man is mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Swansea, Palace, West Ham, and sort of Burnley are their remaining matches that they have any hope of winning. Can't see them doing anything against Liverpool or Spurs. They have a chance at staying up, but they need to win at least 2-3 of their final 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 West Ham comfortably dispatched Southampton who are a point above Stoke. Swansea won their last 5 or 6 home games although could ease off if safe. Burnley going for europa league. Even the "easy" games are hard for Stoke. They lost their chance with three points from Brighton, Watford, Everton, Leicester and Bournemouth games. And all the ones Mark hughes messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I am still baffled why they chose lambert. Surely jokanovic would have been a better option. He would have kept them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 52 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I am still baffled why they chose lambert. Surely jokanovic would have been a better option. He would have kept them up a] Zero guarantee Jokanovic would keep them up (lol?) b] Why would he leave a promotion chasing side to go to a potentially-relegated side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bobzy said: a] Zero guarantee Jokanovic would keep them up (lol?) b] Why would he leave a promotion chasing side to go to a potentially-relegated side? I believe he could he is a better manager than lambert if paid correctly he would as no guarantees fulham go up. Edited April 6, 2018 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I believe he could he is a better manager than lambert if paid correctly he would as no guarantees fulham go up. There's a massive difference between "could" and "would". No guarantee Fulham go up but, equally, no guarantee that Stoke stay up. One side is on the up, one side is clearly not. It's also a complete misconception that teams hire a first-choice manager more often than not. Jokanovic/Fulham may well have been approached by Stoke. I don't believe that Paul Lambert would've been their first choice man for the job. He'll have just been "the next one" on a list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 hours ago, bobzy said: There's a massive difference between "could" and "would". No guarantee Fulham go up but, equally, no guarantee that Stoke stay up. One side is on the up, one side is clearly not. It's also a complete misconception that teams hire a first-choice manager more often than not. Jokanovic/Fulham may well have been approached by Stoke. I don't believe that Paul Lambert would've been their first choice man for the job. He'll have just been "the next one" on a list. Isn't it pretty well-known that Lambert was actually about the 8th person on the list, and the first one to answer the phone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 33 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Isn't it pretty well-known that Lambert was actually about the 8th person on the list, and the first one to answer the phone? I'm not sure if it's well known but it was certainly a panic appointment after Flores turned them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, villa89 said: I'm not sure if it's well known but it was certainly a panic appointment after Flores turned them down. And MON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Lambert was likely cheap, and the only one who was enthusiastically wanting the job. Lambert essentially saves his career by keeping Stoke up. Even if they are relegated, he then can go back to the Championship. Win win for him. Edited April 6, 2018 by Czechlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Lambert was likely cheap, and the only one who was enthusiastically wanting the job. Lambert essentially saves his career by keeping Stoke up. Even if they are relegated, he then can go back to the Championship. Win win for him. Lambert and enthusiastic dont go together 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 55 minutes ago, villa89 said: I'm not sure if it's well known but it was certainly a panic appointment after Flores turned them down. 48 minutes ago, Zatman said: And MON And Rowett, and there might have been others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 hours ago, bobzy said: There's a massive difference between "could" and "would". No guarantee Fulham go up but, equally, no guarantee that Stoke stay up. One side is on the up, one side is clearly not. It's also a complete misconception that teams hire a first-choice manager more often than not. Jokanovic/Fulham may well have been approached by Stoke. I don't believe that Paul Lambert would've been their first choice man for the job. He'll have just been "the next one" on a list. Yeah no guarantees but if I were a betting man 8 think jonkavic would do a better job than lambert. Ones on the up and ones been on the decline. I think lamberts done even worse than Hughes did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Lambert was fourth choice. They wanted Quique Sanchez Flores and he apparently changed his mind on coming at the last minute. MON was also rumoured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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