Things that piss you off that shouldn't

[Midfielder]

1 hour ago, snowychap said:

Were you looking for the fish counter?

No, but the kid in question was trialling a new fish yoghurt, finger lickin good.

but yeah what a scumbag, double bassing her he was, not like they were lay on floor, was an upright encounter unashamedly exhibited. Me I got the hell out of there. Not one to party poop their moment of romance me.

[chrisp65]

50 minutes ago, Ingram85 said:

I've always wanted to visit Gloucester to see the docks/river etc... Think I'll give it a miss then. Is Bristol any better?

Yes, I'd say Bristol is a good trip out. Lots of old architecture and hidden trendy gems.

I treat myself to a bit of a psychogeography over there every now and again. Just set out on a random walk without a map, see what I can see.

[Midfielder]

1 hour ago, Ingram85 said:

I've always wanted to visit Gloucester to see the docks/river etc... Think I'll give it a miss then. Is Bristol any better?

Sure, they have tall ships come in usually every year, you know, old school pirates of th Caribbean type stuff, in fact I think they did some filming for some Pirates film there not too long ago. Just don't bother with the square in front of Debenhams where CEX and the wether spoons is, as I suspect that's the area Chris P 65 was in. It's ok city, lot of steroided up lads though and no I'm not exaggerating. Recommend Cheltenham but there's a lot of snobbery and wealth-attitude, but the studenty bars are spot on. Me, I'm way too old for that but Gloucester is ok just don't expect much. 

[Midfielder]

9 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Yes, I'd say Bristol is a good trip out. Lots of old architecture and hidden trendy gems.

I treat myself to a bit of a psychogeography over there every now and again. Just set out on a random walk without a map, see what I can see.

My friend , but have you discovered Za Za Bazaar? It's an all you can eat place, but many many different foods from around the world, ready served or the chefs will cook to,order. All clean, all food and deserts in abundance... Hugely popular. Worth a trip. Near quays by millennium square. 

Edit, plus, like your pics, there's The Banksy and dozens of Banksy style murals. Me I'm not into art, but it's a very artistic place like that. 

Edited April 29, 2017 by Midfielder

[mjmooney]

Come to think of it, weren't Fred West and his missus from Gloucester? 

[chrisp65]

Just now, Midfielder said:

My friend , but have you discovered Za Za Bazaar? It's an all you can eat place, but many many different foods from around the world, ready served or the chefs will cook to,order. All clean, all food and deserts in abundance... Hugely popular. Worth a trip. Near quays by millennium square. 

Edit, plus, like your pics, there's The Banksy and dozens of Banksy style murals. Me I'm not into art, but it's a very artistic place like that. 

I'm usually there pretty early, so it tends to be bacon roll and a coffee when I'm there.

There's a whole bunch of cafes by BBC Whiteladies that I've got to know fairly well. A few places by the river over by the Courts (Welsh Beck??). Plus they had foodie yurts over by the river last Christmas where I had a few of the most expensive drinks I've ever bought.

I found the guy doing the grafitti purely by chance. Somewhere around Stokes Croft. I said hi, and asked if I could just watch for a while and take a couple of photos. He checked I wasn't 'council or social' and then was happy for me to hang around.

[JB]

Bristol is cool. The White Lion (I think) in Clifton has probably the coolest beer garden that I've seen in the UK. 

[Midfielder]

4 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

Come to think of it, weren't Fred West and his missus from Gloucester? 

Yeah about five mins walk out of city centre. House not there any more, torn down. I'm not from Gloucester though, Birmingham born n bred. 

[snowychap]

21 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

Come to think of it, weren't Fred West and his missus from Gloucester? 

Fred West was from Much Marcle.

Their Cromwell St house (now demolished) was not far from Gloucester city centre.

Edited April 29, 2017 by snowychap
Added his surname just in case anyone thought it was too familiar before.

[Midfielder]

6 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

I'm usually there pretty early, so it tends to be bacon roll and a coffee when I'm there.

There's a whole bunch of cafes by BBC Whiteladies that I've got to know fairly well. A few places by the river over by the Courts (Welsh Beck??). Plus they had foodie yurts over by the river last Christmas where I had a few of the most expensive drinks I've ever bought.

I found the guy doing the grafitti purely by chance. Somewhere around Stokes Croft. I said hi, and asked if I could just watch for a while and take a couple of photos. He checked I wasn't 'council or social' and then was happy for me to hang around.

Yeah the graffiti is impressive, it goes with the quirkiness of the city that, well.... For the parts they invite / sanction graffiti projects that it's recognising talent, showcasing it. Also the city centre really sprawls out, really is a massive centre. If I could wind back 20 years I'd love to have gone to Uni there. 

[magnkarl]

Things that piss me off that shouldn't.. the list is long. I find that the older I get the more pissed off I become at this new way our society is heading where free speech seems to be something that is only held by 18-30 year old single female people. Whenever someone else has something to say that these people find offensive they'll do anything in their power to stop them from speaking. For the first time in the 30 years I've worked with Winchester University pressure from certain groups in our school has made it so that only a few people are allowed to speak. We've had protests against people like Milo Yiannopolous (say what you will of him - I'm not a big fan), Judy Bindel (say what you want again, not a big fan) while at the same time speakers who are "new wave" feminists with their micro-aggression and safe space bullcrap has been allowed to take over everything that campus is about.

I find that even though I may not necessarily agree with Milo and Judy I still find it extremely valuable to open debate to hear someone speak who necessarily doesn't have my views. It seems like student life these days is about being coddled and kept in the safe space where no one challenges the norm. This minority of students and professors are treating the rest like everyone else is the minority. If anyone dares speak about how new wave feminism is turning into misogyny of men and a place where no minority is criticised (read Islam, Black Lives Matter, Liberal Democrats, Marxism, Feminism, PC culture, nationalism, socialism, left vs right, individual rights, free speech) they literally get threatened with being taken to court on hate speech charges. Where did our free speech go? 

Sorry for that little rant there guys, just my two cents from the last couple of years.

[tonyh29]

12 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

I'm usually there pretty early, so it tends to be bacon roll and a coffee when I'm there.

There's a whole bunch of cafes by BBC Whiteladies that I've got to know fairly well. A few places by the river over by the Courts (Welsh Beck??). Plus they had foodie yurts over by the river last Christmas where I had a few of the most expensive drinks I've ever bought.

I found the guy doing the grafitti purely by chance. Somewhere around Stokes Croft. I said hi, and asked if I could just watch for a while and take a couple of photos. He checked I wasn't 'council or social' and then was happy for me to hang around.

Nothing a coat of Dulux can't fix

 

[tonyh29]

16 hours ago, Xela said:

I was stone cold sober when I got home. Must have been in the cab about an hour!

Plus I had to pay the full amount myself as the colleague had no money so I need to broach the subject net week about getting their share paid back to me. I doubt they remember getting home. 

Welcome to Uber where it seems to be a battle of wills as your pissed mates come up with imaginative ways to not actually be the one to make the booking as they know it's coming out of their account ... surprising how often the app crashes , people forget their password or phones have run out of battery around closing time !!

 

[Dr_Pangloss]

I really hate it when people senior to me put me on their out of office when they are away. News flash, it's not my job do your more senior, higher paying job, when you are away. 

[magnkarl]

1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

I really hate it when people senior to me put me on their out of office when they are away. News flash, it's not my job do your more senior, higher paying job, when you are away. 

This. 100 times over. And then being hauled over the coals for making decisions I usually don't make because I was forced to due to this exact problem.

[Dr_Pangloss]

14 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

Things that piss me off that shouldn't.. the list is long. I find that the older I get the more pissed off I become at this new way our society is heading where free speech seems to be something that is only held by 18-30 year old single female people. Whenever someone else has something to say that these people find offensive they'll do anything in their power to stop them from speaking. For the first time in the 30 years I've worked with Winchester University pressure from certain groups in our school has made it so that only a few people are allowed to speak. We've had protests against people like Milo Yiannopolous (say what you will of him - I'm not a big fan), Judy Bindel (say what you want again, not a big fan) while at the same time speakers who are "new wave" feminists with their micro-aggression and safe space bullcrap has been allowed to take over everything that campus is about.

I find that even though I may not necessarily agree with Milo and Judy I still find it extremely valuable to open debate to hear someone speak who necessarily doesn't have my views. It seems like student life these days is about being coddled and kept in the safe space where no one challenges the norm. This minority of students and professors are treating the rest like everyone else is the minority. If anyone dares speak about how new wave feminism is turning into misogyny of men and a place where no minority is criticised (read Islam, Black Lives Matter, Liberal Democrats, Marxism, Feminism, PC culture, nationalism, socialism, left vs right, individual rights, free speech) they literally get threatened with being taken to court on hate speech charges. Where did our free speech go? 

Sorry for that little rant there guys, just my two cents from the last couple of years.

This x 1,000,000, and may I add, Black Lives Matter are an extremely dangerous and pernicious group. Their broad principle is perfectly fine and understandable, but their tactics and beliefs at high levels within the organisation are downright dangerous. 

Debate is actually a dying concept, no-platforming is utterly ridiculous. 

[Xela]

41 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

Welcome to Uber where it seems to be a battle of wills as your pissed mates come up with imaginative ways to not actually be the one to make the booking as they know it's coming out of their account ... surprising how often the app crashes , people forget their password or phones have run out of battery around closing time !!

 

This was a black cab! Cold hard cash from my wallet. I haven't advanced to Uber yet! 

[magnkarl]

35 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

This x 1,000,000, and may I add, Black Lives Matter are an extremely dangerous and pernicious group. Their broad principle is perfectly fine and understandable, but their tactics and beliefs at high levels within the organisation are downright dangerous. 

Debate is actually a dying concept, no-platforming is utterly ridiculous. 

You should come to one of our staff meetings where I try to argue this (I work in the politics department), it generally takes about 2 minutes before I am accused of being a woman hater, a racist and all sorts by people from the Gender Studies Department. It's almost hysterical how these people have been allowed to take over all reason. It generally turns into a debate where all the politics staff have a go at the gender studies people with proper discourse and then nothing gets done because some hysterical person starts crying. It's weird how stuff like this is at the top of our society. Some people feel so victimised when they are so extremely privileged that I have no words for it.

Edited April 30, 2017 by magnkarl

[Rodders]

any examples of this mysogyny of men? I'd love to see, examples that indicate or support a widespread problem across the country. There is definite some aggression of viewpoints generally - but it certainly isn't exclusive to any one side. I think Twitter and open comments on news articles are a disaster - you see naked aggression from anonymous speakers which creates a distinctly more negative vibe. You see aggression all over the place, and generally you'll notice it more from viewpoints you oppose I think ( natural bias )  I could well do without that. 

At Cardiff University last year, I was embarrassed when the students protested germaine greer speaking. Regardless of whether I would have agreed with her r not, debates need to be articulated. I think it was on whether trans-women could claim ownership of the word woman - something like that. Perhaps the instinctive response is to stick up for the trans people, but you should be able to have that debate without threatening people or denying respect to all sides of a debate. There is a philosophical question on gender that encompasses all the baggage of social history and battles for equality that would make for a fascinating debate, but nope, shut down.  And there is definitely an element ( a small one ) of new identities being created and demanded immediate acceptance, without acknowledging the pace of change in identities may lead some people to feel bewildered by it all. There was an article about new sexualities in Time recently, and fair enough all power to people who wish to identify ow they wish, but one detects that micro-aggression almost presumed towards other people who don't immediately get on board. Asking what pansexual is should lead to a conversation not an accusation of bigotry. ( Equally, if you're the bewildered person, not calling them weird or idiots also helps ) 

However, on the free speech thing, I think alot of that is hyperbolic hysteria. You can say whatever you want. That post has not been deleted. However freedom of speech doesn't come with immunity to criticism. Accountability for what you end up putting in the public sphere is important too. If you feel you cannot say something, it's worth asking yourself why you feel that self-censoring attitude coming over. The general aggression ( on the internet at least,  in person I generally find it's much easier obviously, people take more care with how they represent themselves ) doesn't help. But there also needs to be more empathy and considering other viewpoints. I do take quite strongly against this feminazi, or feminist mafia nonsense that get's espoused. So on a few sites there are plenty of articles about it, so what? Sometimes you may disagree, but again so what? 

You want statistics - just go and find them! It is still a man's world. And a white man's world for that too. ( Sorry, that's me adding my personal irritation, the idea white men are under attack, makes me so angry at the absolute lack of self awareness )

 

 

Edited April 30, 2017 by Rodders

[Dr_Pangloss]

7 minutes ago, Rodders said:

However, on the free speech thing, I think alot of that is hyperbolic hysteria. You can say whatever you want. That post has not been deleted. However freedom of speech doesn't come with immunity to criticism. Accountability for what you end up putting in the public sphere is important too. If you feel you cannot say something, it's asking why you feel that self-censoring attitude coming over. The general aggression ( on the internet at least,  in person I generally find it's much easier obviously, people take more care with how they represent themselves ) doesn't help. But there also needs to be more empathy and considering other viewpoints. I do take quite strongly against this feminazi, or feminist mafia nonsense that get's espoused. So on a few sites there are plenty of articles about it, so what? Sometimes you may disagree, but again so what? 

Not saying you endorse no platforming at all but IMO no-platforming isn't criticism it's an almost Stalinist attempt to shut down and silence someone. It doesn't have a place in a healthy democracy. I totally agree that free speech is not immune to criticism, but that criticism has to take place in a reasoned way through debate, rather than an attempt at silencing someone.

The 'feminazi' labels aren't helpful but there's also no smoke without fire on this subject as far as I'm concerned, the left really is in a mess and proof of that can be found on many university campuses. 

Edited April 30, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss