Zatman Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 on a loan from August-January be good as thats the only time he bloody scores in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevillain Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 He wouldn't wear the shirt anyway, with him being a Muslim. Not that I'd want to see him in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I was talking during the week to a person in London and he seemed to know alot about Ba. The reason why he is so cheap, regarding a transfer fee, is not really to do with his wages but its because of the cost for a club to insure him. Apparently its crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 If Lambert wants him, then 18mil plus him for Benteke would be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 If Lambert wants him, then 18mil plus him for Benteke would be pretty good. Nah id rather we get the 25 mill and buy someone alot younger and less injury prone I doubt he'd even pass the medical anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 If Lambert wants him, then 18mil plus him for Benteke would be pretty good. Lambert won't want him though will he. That journalist should be fired for complete incompetence. He couldn't even muster the most basic of research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) No chance. I'd take £24m + Marko Marin though. But I think he's just signed for Seville on loan. Still think Piazon could be a viable option. Chelsea have Mata, Oscar, Hazard, Van Ginkel, De Bruyne and Moses who can play in his positions. He's highly rated and already talking about moving due to lack of playing time. Although he seems to be getting linked with loan moves to Liverpool and Crystal Palace rather than permanent moves. Edited July 12, 2013 by HalfTimePost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 If Lambert wants him, then 18mil plus him for Benteke would be pretty good. Lambert won't want him though will he. That journalist should be fired for complete incompetence. He couldn't even muster the most basic of research. Totally agree. Villa have made it clear that they will only buy young hungry prospects, who want to play football rather than count their money. Ba is 29, crocked, over paid and will have zero sell on value. What a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 If Lambert wants him, then 18mil plus him for Benteke would be pretty good. That would be a rubbish deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 If Lambert wants him, then 18mil plus him for Benteke would be pretty good. That would be a rubbish deal That's a bit dramatic, don't you think? That values Ba at 7mil, who's got about 4 years left in him (he's 28). Looking at how many games he's played, it doesn't really paint the 'injury crock' picture either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Posted July 12, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2013 Not really dramatic no. 4 years at 70K per week (I am guessing that is roughly what he is on now) = 14.5M we have just signed up for and committed right there our of the 18M you have made on Benteke. So feck all to then spend anywhere else Then in 18 months as his form drops off (if he manages to keep it going for that long) we try and replace him with someone else, younger and hungrier perhaps! and who is going to buy him on 70K per week? So we are stuck with another Given/Ireland/Bent situation As I said rubbish deal 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 So a guess, followed by Dougenomics, then another guess and then a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) That and Ba only moved a little while ago, for £7m, if chelsea snapped him up for £7m and then decide he isn't worth the trouble and try to offload him, on what planet is he still worth £7m? On that, I'd say Chelsea dont think he's worth it or they'd keep him. £4m would be fair imo And I still wouldn't want him. Edited July 12, 2013 by HalfTimePost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 12, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 12, 2013 Richard quite clearly said he was guessing the wages, a reasonable guess as well given the fact he is a first team player at Chelsea. The rest is basic maths based on that assumption and the transfer fee mooted in the article, you yourself have mentioned the same fee. It is nothing to do with Dougenomics (although I like term) and everything to do with supporting his original opinion with logical reasoning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Richard quite clearly said he was guessing the wages, a reasonable guess as well given the fact he is a first team player at Chelsea. The rest is basic maths based on that assumption and the transfer fee mooted in the article, you yourself have mentioned the same fee. It is nothing to do with Dougenomics (although I like term) and everything to do with supporting his original opinion with logical reasoning. That's not really how it works though - there are transfer budgets and there are wage budgets. Just because we would be paying that much off across four years doesn't mean that our present transfer budget would be affected as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Richard quite clearly said he was guessing the wages, a reasonable guess as well given the fact he is a first team player at Chelsea. The rest is basic maths based on that assumption and the transfer fee mooted in the article, you yourself have mentioned the same fee. It is nothing to do with Dougenomics (although I like term) and everything to do with supporting his original opinion with logical reasoning. That's not really how it works though - there are transfer budgets and there are wage budgets. Just because we would be paying that much off across four years doesn't mean that our present transfer budget would be affected as a result. Is this a guess or an assumption? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Richard quite clearly said he was guessing the wages, a reasonable guess as well given the fact he is a first team player at Chelsea. The rest is basic maths based on that assumption and the transfer fee mooted in the article, you yourself have mentioned the same fee. It is nothing to do with Dougenomics (although I like term) and everything to do with supporting his original opinion with logical reasoning. That's not really how it works though - there are transfer budgets and there are wage budgets. Just because we would be paying that much off across four years doesn't mean that our present transfer budget would be affected as a result. Of course it does. There's one budget overall. How much money we have. This kind of signing is a thing of the past. Surely you can see why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 12, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 12, 2013 Richard quite clearly said he was guessing the wages, a reasonable guess as well given the fact he is a first team player at Chelsea. The rest is basic maths based on that assumption and the transfer fee mooted in the article, you yourself have mentioned the same fee. It is nothing to do with Dougenomics (although I like term) and everything to do with supporting his original opinion with logical reasoning. That's not really how it works though - there are transfer budgets and there are wage budgets. Just because we would be paying that much off across four years doesn't mean that our present transfer budget would be affected as a result. Now who is guessing? I'm inclined to agree there are two budgets but you don't know that any more than Richard knows the figures he admitted he was guessing and you jumped on him for it. I'm inclined to agree there are two different budgets but ultimately they come from the same pot and I think it is reasonable to think both work together, you spend over budget on one and it reduces the other. It is abundantly clear we are working to a relatively small budget in terms of both these days so an outlay of circa £14m on a 28 year old seems extremely unlikely and not particularly smart business to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 If Lambert wants him, then 18mil plus him for Benteke would be pretty good. That would be a rubbish deal I agree. Demba Ba is a bloody awful player who is overpaid and who goes on long goal droughts. I have no idea how he ended up at Chelsea. Ba reminds me of Carlton Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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