Voinjama Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) In 2004/2005 Bolton finished 6th place and equal on points with Liverpool. I thought for that season only, they played some good stuff. I remembered they hammered Charlton 4-1 and doubled Martin Jol's Spurs side and I thought Bolton have changed. Edited September 30, 2013 by Voinjama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2013 As this is the closest we have (or indeed 'need') to a Fulham thread, I may aswell put it here. (EDIT : Title changed. It's now the Fulham thread) They've just hired Rene Meulensteen as "head coach" to work alongside Martin Jol. Rene Meulensteen named Fulham's head coach and will work with Martin Jol Fulham have announced the appointment of Rene Meulensteen as head coach alongside manager Martin Jol. The Dutchman, who spent over a decade working at Manchester United, joins the struggling Premier League club with immediate effect. Meulensteen worked for United as youth team and reserve coach before being promoted to assistant to Sir Alex Ferguson. The 49-year-old left the Premier League champions in June when David Moyes succeeded Ferguson and brought in his own coaching team. Meulensteen joined Anzhi Makhachkala in July as assistant to Guus Hiddink and was promoted to head coach when his fellow Dutchman quit after two games. "I have spent many hours talking with Martin Jol and we share a vision of how football should be played and how players should be developed. It is our job to make sure we can bring this vision to life on the pitch for the fans." Rene Meulensteen However, Meulensteen was sacked after just 16 days in charge of the Russian Premier League club and has now taken a role alongside Jol. Meulensteen said in a statement: "I was impressed by the vision of Shahid Khan and Alistair Mackintosh. "I have spent many hours talking with Martin Jol and we share a vision of how football should be played and how players should be developed. It is our job to make sure we can bring this vision to life on the pitch for the fans." Fulham FC chief executive officer, Alistair Mackintosh said: "We are all delighted to welcome Rene to Fulham. "There was always going to be a battle for Rene's services and, with the assistance of our chairman Shahid Khan, we have been able to bring one of the best coaches in the world to Fulham." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hmmmm I wonder what odds Marty Jol is for next manager to leave their club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 dont know if he is going to help their crap defence. Hangeland and Senderos are shocking, hard to believe the hype around Hangeland a few seasons back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2013 I really think Hangeland is suffering what many before him have. Being a top defender with a shite partner, resulting in said centre back looking crap because he's doing 2 jobs and succeeding at neither. How many times are we going to see this happen before realising that the central pairing is a partnership and really needs both parties to be competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 dont know he always looked ropey playing with Aaron hughes who I always thought was the better of the 2. Hangeland used to always get caught out of position. Think releasing Baird has also damaged their defence as he used ot sit in front of back 4 and mop up. on another note was Aaron Hughes a very underrated player at Villa, dont think he ever let us down in his short spell here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Aaron Hughes was a horrific player for Villa IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) always thought he did a decent job think after Delaney he was better than most right backs we had in last 10 years though that isnt a great achievement Edited November 13, 2013 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hughes was a mediocre to decent right back for us and I was surprised when Fulham bought him and made him a starter at centre back. In fairness he seems to have done better there than he did here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 i suspect Jol will be gone before Christmas, especially after we take 3 points off them. I doubt this appointment was his choice so the owner clearly has little faith in his ability to turn things round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 dont know if he is going to help their crap defence. Hangeland and Senderos are shocking, hard to believe the hype around Hangeland a few seasons back You can't have seen many games then. Hangeland, although 32 years old now, has always been a very stable defender. He was and is more than good enough to go straight into our team, to put it that way. Senderos on the other hand follows a long line of defenders that I wouldn't even play for our reserves, like Zat Knight, Titus Bramble and the lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) I remember Senderos being kind of OK before he got injured and missed a year or something. Edited November 13, 2013 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Senderos is basically in the same category as the likes of Bramble. Can string together some solid performances for a while but will always revert back to being a liability at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2013 Senderos doesn't even have Bramble's highs IMO. Bramble on his day can be a beast. Senderos doesn't have a beast mode. He only has a 'less than shit' mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hangeland is actually a pretty good defender but he has been poor this season. Maybe his age is catching up to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Aaron Hughes was a horrific player for Villa IMO. Wow horrific, really? He was always incredibly average but i never saw him play ever and thought he was horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Aaron Hughes was a horrific player for Villa IMO. Wow horrific, really? He was always incredibly average but i never saw him play ever and thought he was horrific. Yes he was a dependable 6/10. We've certainly had worse defenders in recent time......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hughes was an average player in a shit team while he was at Villa. I can certainly remember worse players during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 dont know if he is going to help their crap defence. Hangeland and Senderos are shocking, hard to believe the hype around Hangeland a few seasons back You can't have seen many games then. Hangeland, although 32 years old now, has always been a very stable defender. He was and is more than good enough to go straight into our team, to put it that way. Senderos on the other hand follows a long line of defenders that I wouldn't even play for our reserves, like Zat Knight, Titus Bramble and the lot. I'm not sure I'd take Hangeland in our team now. Maybe a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 They may stay up now. Jol is a manager who doesn't really do anything, so Meulensteen will have a big influence on the training ground and if he's good it will be like they have a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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