myko Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 When he was kind of through on goal and he smashed that ball towards Benteke I was in utter disbelief... however i'm thinking today was probably just an off day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The foul throw that led to their second goal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 He left an unholy amount of space yesterday. Towards the end of the game Ben Arfa was just toying with him and making us look daft. I've noticed it in every game but his handy ability to get forward so well has made up for it. Unfortunately that wasn't the case yesterday so that's all that I kept noticing. The missed goal opportunity was another "ffs" moment. He had a very similar chance when we played Liverpool in the game previous; attempting a pass rather than having a go. It's nice to see that he's unselfish but when a chance like that comes along and he's in the best position to have a go, he needs to just trust his foot and have a shot. He's had more good games than bad so far, in my opinion, so hopefully he was just (along with most of the squad) having a bad one and will shake it off and do better next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Lets just hope this was a rare off day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Was'nt alone in being below par, but like others have said he was kind of sacrificed against Ben Arfa. Tbh, the midfield let us down badly yesterday and I expect Luna to have better games than this. I also agree he needs to be more selfish when given the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 When he was kind of through on goal and he smashed that ball towards Benteke I was in utter disbelief... however i'm thinking today was probably just an off day. I think he was worried of shooting with his right foot. He should have just had a crack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 When he was kind of through on goal and he smashed that ball towards Benteke I was in utter disbelief... however i'm thinking today was probably just an off day. I think he was worried of shooting with his right foot. He should have just had a crack! Maybe he didn't realise how close to the goal he was? It was a very odd moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I think he had a complete brain fart there to be honest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 am not surprised really. He is good going forward but was torn apart by Shamrock Rovers in Dublin so not surprised Ben Arfa had a great game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 am not surprised really. He is good going forward but was torn apart by Shamrock Rovers in Dublin so not surprised Ben Arfa had a great game When we were getting Lambert from Norwich, we were told more than once that he was great tactically, and would switch tactics in a match quite often to good effect, when he wasn't getting the desired response. I have to say that I've seen very little evidence of this so far. As you say, Ben Arfa tore Luna a new one all match, and nothing was done about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 am not surprised really. He is good going forward but was torn apart by Shamrock Rovers in Dublin so not surprised Ben Arfa had a great game When we were getting Lambert from Norwich, we were told more than once that he was great tactically, and would switch tactics in a match quite often to good effect, when he wasn't getting the desired response. I have to say that I've seen very little evidence of this so far. As you say, Ben Arfa tore Luna a new one all match, and nothing was done about it. It also seems to me that Lambert has also been guilty of leaving players in situations where they are getting beaten to avoid harming their confidence even more by removing them from a situation/game. He could have dropped Bennett on numerous occasions last season but he stuck with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 4-3-3 may give the full backs room to get forward, but offers zero protection when they're under pressure. Add a player like Ben Arfa into the mix...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 4-3-3 may give the full backs room to get forward, but offers zero protection when they're under pressure. Add a player like Ben Arfa into the mix...................... I'm not sure that's necessarily true. Look at the quality Chelsea had on the pitch when we played them! I just think that too many players had an off day and we don't have enough quality to afford that to happen. I watched Luna against Malaga and he was ripped apart in that game too. For me, he is the same as Bennett defensively but has better quality going forwards with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 4-3-3 may give the full backs room to get forward, but offers zero protection when they're under pressure. Add a player like Ben Arfa into the mix...................... No the way we play 4-3-3 offers them no protection because we play it under Lambert's system which is defensively inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 4-3-3 may give the full backs room to get forward, but offers zero protection when they're under pressure. Add a player like Ben Arfa into the mix...................... No the way we play 4-3-3 offers them no protection because we play it under Lambert's system which is defensively inept. I'd tend to agree here. When we played 433 last year, we had Delph helping out the left full back, and Sylla helping out the right full back. I don't know why this isn't happening at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Tbh both fullbacks are getting unnecessary criticism The system we are playing they are going to be exposed all the time and they get hardly any protection at all We play so narrow its rediculous Edited September 17, 2013 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) I feel for Bennett, if it was he instead of Tony that put that display in he'd be receiving one direction-esque death threats on here. Wouldn't hear a single claim that it was the midfielders at fault, the blame would be solely on Joe. Edited September 17, 2013 by TreeVillan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Luna was poor against newcastle - we need to double up on ben arfa he was their only threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 He needs to learn how to throw a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Tbh both fullbacks are getting unnecessary criticism The system we are playing they are going to be exposed all the time and they get hardly any protection at all We play so narrow its ridiculous Yes that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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