limpid Posted July 28, 2013 Administrator Share Posted July 28, 2013 Now I understand Google's business model and how they make money. I understand the same for Bing. But what is the money behind DuckDuckGo and the others? What is paying for all the processing power and connectivity? At the moment, I'm much more comfortable with the ones I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) DuckGoGo may well be a honeypot, but even if it's not, I wouldn't use it, because it sucks, really badly. It's the worst search engine I've used since AskJeeves. Sure, Google keeps records of my search history, and it uses that to improve the search results I get, it works out for both of us. I'll just be careful not to search for tips on safely disposing of a corpse. Edited July 28, 2013 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted July 28, 2013 Administrator Share Posted July 28, 2013 It also uses it to improve the "quality" of the adverts it provides you on other sites, which is what pays for everything. I'd only worry about that if you actually have a corpse to dispose of. If you are interested in forensics, or are thinking about becoming an author, that's a perfectly sensible thing to be searching for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 True, but I doh't see the problem with that. If I'm going to see adverts, I'd rather see ones for something that I might actually be interested in buying. I'm absolutely aware that as a user of their services, I'm Google's product rather than their customer, but it seems beneficial to all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted July 28, 2013 Administrator Share Posted July 28, 2013 I agree, I have no problem with that at all. If anything it gives them a huge incentive to be really careful with my data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted August 8, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2013 So Opera 15 is out for Windows (and Mac?) and for now, it's basically Chrome minus Google (but also minus Opera's UI and a few often useful rendering features). That the Linux version is delayed is a blessing in disguise.Apparently (since only Windows and Mac builds have been released) Opera 17 will bring back some of the distinctive Opera features like gestures. Maybe in a couple of years, Opera will be as featureful as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted August 17, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2017 So, with Firefox 57 breaking a truckload of good extensions, is anyone going to switch? I checked mine and all but X-notifier will die. Most dev's I've seen will abandon it because 57 will not allow the deep digging they require. I'm a bit sad frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted August 17, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2017 To answer my own question, Waterfox will continue down the XUL/XPCOM trail, so support for addons will continue there. Mine are working at first glance. If the addon-devs will keep up and continue remains to be seen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted October 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 23, 2018 My Waterfox started behaving badly on some sites, different Google services especially ground to a halt. Found (inferior) substitues for my extentions on Firefox. It's bloody fast, I'll give it that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Quite pleased with Vivaldi so far. Quick, and doesn't feel as resource heavy as Chrome. Little section top left to keep notes as I flick between tabs for work is a godsend as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I think Opera's last update included a data preview function that was activating some links without clicking? Two fingered scrolling down a thread of Youtube links was freaky, and been doing a tour of profiles again. Turned it off. Seems better. You wouldn't want it doing that on Pornhub! Might end up on a register? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted July 5, 2020 Administrator Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 hours ago, Xann said: I think Opera's last update included a data preview function that was activating some links without clicking? Two fingered scrolling down a thread of Youtube links was freaky, and been doing a tour of profiles again. Turned it off. Seems better. You wouldn't want it doing that on Pornhub! Might end up on a register? All browsers have been using pre-caching for years. I think the change to Opera was related to previewing. It was already hitting all the links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 19, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 19, 2021 Welcome back to the slowest moving thread on VillaTalk! I've just downloaded and started using Brave, a Chromium-based browser that doesn't do all the nefarious bits Chrome does. First impressions are good. Looks like Chrome, uses Chrome extensions, loads very quickly and uses less memory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 14 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Welcome back to the slowest moving thread on VillaTalk! I've just downloaded and started using Brave, a Chromium-based browser that doesn't do all the nefarious bits Chrome does. First impressions are good. Looks like Chrome, uses Chrome extensions, loads very quickly and uses less memory. This is pretty much why, since getting a new work laptop, I've actually just been using Edge. It's absolutely fine, Chromium based so uses the same plugins, and yes somehow Microsoft now seems significantly less evil than Google. I think I'll give Brave a go on my phone/home machine though. I've been trying Firefox out again after years and just don't like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted March 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted March 20, 2021 15 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Welcome back to the slowest moving thread on VillaTalk! I've just downloaded and started using Brave, a Chromium-based browser that doesn't do all the nefarious bits Chrome does. First impressions are good. Looks like Chrome, uses Chrome extensions, loads very quickly and uses less memory. 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: This is pretty much why, since getting a new work laptop, I've actually just been using Edge. It's absolutely fine, Chromium based so uses the same plugins, and yes somehow Microsoft now seems significantly less evil than Google. I think I'll give Brave a go on my phone/home machine though. I've been trying Firefox out again after years and just don't like it. I expect to see the BAT start rolling in then I might get up to the minimum so that I can convert it to actual currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, limpid said: I expect to see the BAT start rolling in then I might get up to the minimum so that I can convert it to actual currency. All take, take, take with you I'll happily hand over my $0.00000001 per month, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted March 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, NurembergVillan said: All take, take, take with you I'll happily hand over my $0.00000001 per month, though. I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to turn 3 years worth of BAT into a pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: This is pretty much why, since getting a new work laptop, I've actually just been using Edge. It's absolutely fine, Chromium based so uses the same plugins, and yes somehow Microsoft now seems significantly less evil than Google. I think I'll give Brave a go on my phone/home machine though. I've been trying Firefox out again after years and just don't like it. The important thing for me with Chrome was being able to use favicons on my toolbar (something I saw years ago when @The_Rev did a screengrab) and was disappointed that other browsers, including the new whizz-bang Safari, didn't support it. It's gonna take a big surprise in the functionality stakes to get me away from Brave now, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, limpid said: I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to turn 3 years worth of BAT into a pound. That'll be the day before it goes Bitcoin-crazy and you'll have missed out on a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: This is pretty much why, since getting a new work laptop, I've actually just been using Edge. It's absolutely fine, Chromium based so uses the same plugins, and yes somehow Microsoft now seems significantly less evil than Google. I think I'll give Brave a go on my phone/home machine though. I've been trying Firefox out again after years and just don't like it. Exactly the same here in terms of Edge. It appeared on work laptop, seemed ok, so I stuck it on my Mac and the bookmarks are automagically passed to the home computer and vice versa. Job done. No google. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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