Chop chop! Lets all gawp at Newcastle (again)

[Czarnikjak]

59 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said:

Villa have spent circa 350m in the last 3 years on new players. We have a good setup at Villa and we are nowhere near Champions League standard. We are miles behind it. It will take Toon much more money and time to get to CL level football. 

We did spend 350m but to be fair we had to start pretty much from scratch.
 

Following the promotion we basically had no squad. We had Grealish and Mcginn, that was it.
 

Newcastle squad is pretty poor, but at least they have one. It won't take £350m to get them to the level where we are now.

[fightoffyour]

25 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said:

That was the name of it when Ashley wanted to sell the naming rights. He temporarily named it 'Sportsdirect.com @ StJames 'Park' to show the potential of renaming the stadium while keeping the 'St James' Park' naming. In 2012 when he was unable to get a sponsor to pay for the naming rights he pretended to bow to pressure from the fans and officially revert to calling it 'St James' Park'

I genuinely thought it had been called the Sports Direct Arena ever since then.

[MrBlack]

3 hours ago, penguin said:

I’m not clued up on FFP at all but seen this posted on Reddit amongst the numerous “Newcastle are going to buy Mbappe” comments.

If the more financially literate/FFP enthusiasts are able to confirm if accurate.

Whilst there are some decent points in there,  the fact they get the allowable losses wrong straight off the bat calls into question the validity.  Its £105m over 3 years, not £155m.

Either way, the fact remains that whatever loss they incur this season by signing a new squad, will be on their FFP books in 2 years time, and will severely limit their expenditure over the next 2 seasons.

Mildly inflated sponsorship deals for toothbrushes, crypto currencies, and official car cleaning partners will only get them so far. 

[Zatman]

4 hours ago, StewieGriffin said:

Given the quality of their current squad, £200m wont get them anywhere near us, let alone higher.

They need 2 centre backs, 3 central midfielders and better back up to Wilson to get halfway up the league. They won't get that for £200m with the prices they'll be quoted.

 

You don't think 40 million Joelinton is gpod business

[Hornso]

The Saudis love a number 9.

[Rds1983]

9 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

Sponsorship.

There will be a boost anyway from increased interest, the idea of a big club will increase revenues locally and abroad with people looking to get on it early, but the big leap will come with a tyre supplier, a training ground sponsor, an associated beer, a gambling company, an official crypto-currency partner, all of those sorts of deals.

 

Sorted... 

[villa4europe]

9 hours ago, Peter Griffin said:

Stadium naming rights can only be at market rates. They can't get 100m a year naming rights, they would be very lucky to get 10m a year naming rights. It is impossible for them to increase their revenues by the amount suggested in such a short period of time

thats why its interesting

city blagged their mega deal on the basis that there was no precedent for it, the stadium, shirt, training ground and then buildings in the local area all came under the etihad deal which was £400m for 10 years so £40m a year at a time when arsenal were getting £90m over 15 years for theirs, arsenal signed a new deal with emirates for £30m a year after the city deal

if the saudis matched the city deal and claimed it as market value then thats a huge increase in revenue

[sparrow1988]

9 hours ago, S-Platt said:

I thought Muslims did not drink or gamble?  Not a good look if its that type of sponsor.

This is a bit like saying all Catholics only have sex in wedlock and without contraception. In other words, total b*****ks.

[S-Platt]

2 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said:

This is a bit like saying all Catholics only have sex in wedlock and without contraception. In other words, total b*****ks.

Oh I agree but they would not sponsor a shirt with Durex would they if they owned a club

[sparrow1988]

5 minutes ago, S-Platt said:

Oh I agree but they would not sponsor a shirt with Durex would they if they owned a club

Probably not but they might have it as their official "safe sex sponsor (partner doesn't really work here)" or something like that if they were trying to increase revenue. Also they more than likely would stick it on a shirt if Durex stumped up enough cash.

[Jareth]

It will be fun for a little bit yet - being the richest club in the world creates no end of opportunities to poke fun at any particular failing. I mean, anything short of appointing a champions league manager and the ire and gags of an entire country of football fans will be aimed squarely at the geordies. They will eventually have the last laugh, but not before we've all had our fun.

[Wainy316]

1 hour ago, sparrow1988 said:

This is a bit like saying all Catholics only have sex in wedlock and without contraception. In other words, total b*****ks.

Not in Saudi it's not.  Not worth the risk of getting caught doing either.

[Amsterdam_Neil_D]

Bet they don't sign Jesus

[Jareth]

18 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said:

Bet they don't sign Jesus

Or Victor Moses

[Guest av1]

The elite don’t want anyone breaking their bubble. I don’t think Newcastle are going to become the next City, there will be too much scrutiny to overcome. 
 

[Wainy316]

1 hour ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said:

Bet they don't sign Jesus

Might take some divine intervention to keep them up.

[Peter Griffin]

3 hours ago, villa4europe said:

thats why its interesting

city blagged their mega deal on the basis that there was no precedent for it, the stadium, shirt, training ground and then buildings in the local area all came under the etihad deal which was £400m for 10 years so £40m a year at a time when arsenal were getting £90m over 15 years for theirs, arsenal signed a new deal with emirates for £30m a year after the city deal

if the saudis matched the city deal and claimed it as market value then thats a huge increase in revenue

PIF can't match the City deal, that loophole has been closed, the sponsorship must be at market rate. Just an FYI on the buildings and training etc, none of that expenditure counts towards P&S. They can spend a billion this season on training facilities and stadium this season if they want. That is why NSWE have been able to improve Villa's facilities so much in the last few years

[Peter Griffin]

11 hours ago, Czarnikjak said:

Newcastle squad is pretty poor, but at least they have one. It won't take £350m to get them to the level where we are now.

I reckon it will take more than 350m to get where we are. We got Konsa for 12m, Luiz 15m, Nakamba 11m, Cash 14m, Targett 14m, Emi M 17m, Traore 17m. There is no chance Toon could get that quality for those prices. When they go shopping the prices will be very inflated

[Amsterdam_Neil_D]

5 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said:

I reckon it will take more than 350m to get where we are. We got Konsa for 12m, Luiz 15m, Nakamba 11m, Cash 14m, Targett 14m, Emi M 17m, Traore 17m. There is no chance Toon could get that quality for those prices. When they go shopping the prices will be very inflated

Another factor maybe,  convincing players and their families to actually live in Newcastle. 

They can renovate the whole area if they want but it's still got the same people in it.

[Genie]

Remember when the fans went mad about having cockneys behind the scenes? I bet they make less about Arabs for some reason.

Same with the stadium naming, they were dead against Sports Direct being in the name… will they make a fuss if/when it carries some middle eastern airline or country in its title?

Who said football fans were fickle?