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15 hours ago, useless said:

Just seen a stat that their front three of Almiron, Joelinton, and Saint-Maximin cost £80m and have scored one goal and have two assists between them this season, even if you throw Dwight Gayle into the equation who cost them £10m, they still only have one goal and one assist between them.

Do you mean that Gayle is so bad that they lose an assist with him? :)

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Next 6 games for them:

- Man City (h)

- Sheff Utd (a)

- Soton (h)

- Burnley (a)

- Palace (h)

- Man Utd (a)

Lots of winnable fixtures in there. Beating Spurs and Man Utd have put them in a very good position.

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26 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Next 6 games for them:

- Man City (h)

- Sheff Utd (a)

- Soton (h)

- Burnley (a)

- Palace (h)

- Man Utd (a)

Lots of winnable fixtures in there. Beating Spurs and Man Utd have put them in a very good position.

I don't know if you're joking or not.  Lots of winnable?  City goes without saying.  A visit to Sheff U is no picnic and Southampton have won 8 of their 9pts this season away from home.  Burnley are 5th in the home league and Palace are notoriously stronger away from home, then a trip to Old Trafford.  Every game may be winnable, but as far as 'on paper' goes, that's a 6 game streak of deceptively slippery banana skins for arguably the worst footballing side in the division. 

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The concern for them is that headers from defenders from set pieces are a much less reliable long-term source of goals than good play from attackers. The only time I was worried on Monday was when they had a corner, but if their opponents can get themselves properly organised for those, they look very toothless.

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2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

The concern for them is that headers from defenders from set pieces are a much less reliable long-term source of goals than good play from attackers. The only time I was worried on Monday was when they had a corner, but if their opponents can get themselves properly organised for those, they look very toothless.

They were dreadful defending set pieces which is a bit bizarre for a team who have scored most their goals from set-pieces

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I think a "Let's All Laugh At Villa" thread would change our fortunes.

Seems to work for everyone else...

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https://www.themag.co.uk/2019/12/boycott-forces-mike-ashley-to-give-away-10000-free-nufc-season-tickets-to-protect-sports-direct-advertising-newcastle-united/

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Mike Ashley has made the most desperate of moves as the boycott by Newcastle United fans has really hit home.

On Sunday, over 10,000 empty seats inside St James Park as despite a decent run of form, fans disillusioned with his running of the club have refused to return.

In this most desperate of moves, Mike Ashley has now announced he is giving away 10,000 FREE season tickets.

These will run from the Everton game on 28 December 2019 for the final 10 games of the season.

The reason he bought Newcastle United was to promote Sports Direct and related brands around the world and the sight of 10,000 empty seats is a hammer blow to the image he wants to promote of his retail empire and of course it is of personal embarrassment to himself, that his actions have caused St James Park to lose so many thousands of fans.

Quite astonishing the desperation as Mike Ashley has had to accept charging anything for these half season tickets wouldn’t shift enough of them.

The free season tickets are available on a first come first served basis starting tomorrow (Tuesday) morning.

 

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Small Heath should follow in Ashley’s steps, now they no longer have their once a year sellout to look forward to. 

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I said a few weeks ago that a major concern for them was that defenders were scoring a high percentage of their goals from set pieces. It's still a concern that their attackers are largely misfiring, but they have contributed a few goals now, and obviously Shelvey has hit form in front of goal, so they're spreading the load more now. Bruce has done a good job under the circumstances to be honest. 

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Great scummy move by Ashley those tickets.

All of them need to resist if they can. Season or two with fewer fans and he might bin it off. The football certainly won't be pulling them back.

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Credit where credits due, you work with what you got.

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Luck, defending and passion: How Newcastle are thriving

Okay, shall we all raise our hands and admit we picked Newcastle to go down this season? I certainly did. When Steven Roger Bruce was named manager, the phrase ‘disaster waiting to happen’ rang out from all corners of the Internet. In fact, after the first two matches, it looked as if the disaster hadn’t bothered to wait and had grabbed the express rocket to Neptune.

But the holidays are approaching, and back here on Earth, Bruce’s boys now have 22 points from 16 games, 13 from their last six. They haven’t lost at St. James’ Park since the first day of the season, and have taken points there from Manchester City, Manchester United and Wolves. Most incredible of all, Andy Carroll has managed 227 minutes, logged two assists, and even lasted 72 minutes after starting against Sheffield United. Has the world gone mad?

A decade ago, when he was at (whisper it) Sunderland, Bruce was famously quoted as saying “I’m not really into tactics”. And he’s still not, at least not in the complex sense of Graham Potter, Eddie Howe and Chris Wilder, to mention only English managers. But he understands how to organise a defence, and after experimenting in the early matches, and falling as flat as you would from 90 stories, he settled on a no-frills 5-4-1 counter-attacking scheme.

But not just any 5-4-1 counter-attacking scheme. This is extreme defensive football, the kind of thing Italian managers fantasise about, and that even Rafa Benitez only occasionally employed. Right now Newcastle are averaging 38.3% possession, which would be the lowest ever recorded in the Premier League. Or Serie A, for that matter.

But this isn’t cynical stop-them-any-way-you-can stuff. It’s disciplined, too. Newcastle are 15th in tackles and absolutely last in fouls committed. It’s as simple as it gets. They defend.

Ask Bruce, and he’ll say this isn’t the way he wants to play. But when his early-season tinkering failed, he must have realised he had to build from the back. He’s gone a bit far, perhaps, but in for a penny, in for the national debt, as they say.

For this sort of thing to succeed, even for a short time, you need solid defenders. Fortunately, that just happens to be the one place where the squad is deep. Even though injuries have sidelined various players at various times, the corps of Federico Fernández, Jamaal Lascelles, Ciaran Clark, Paul Dummett and Fabian Schär have performed pretty well, and Florian Lejeune hasn’t even featured yet. None are in the Van Dijk class, and each has his weaknesses, but they’re all decent players who at their best can be very good indeed. (And yes, that does include Paul Dummett.)

It’s Allan Saint-Maximin, instant cult hero. Being French, he might have heard the expression ‘plus royaliste que le roi’, which in English is ‘more Adama Traoré than Adama Traoré ever was, if you can believe that’. It’s a shame Gary Neville made his celebrated Playstation remark before Saint-Maximin came on the scene, but to be honest I think technology is at least 20 years away from simulating the Frenchman’s moves.

Never has a player been more thoroughly made for a system, or at least the attacking part. He takes off as soon as Newcastle get possession, receives the ball on the counter and freestyles. Right now he’s at a potential league record 9.8 attempted dribbles/90, easily a career high, and astonishing for a team that rarely has the ball. (Traoré, far more disciplined these days, is at 7.0, and even last year finished only at 8.1.)

The numbers agree. For all the great results, Understat still have Newcastle United with the worst xG/xGA difference in the league, just behind Norwich City. Statsbomb also have them in last place, well behind West Ham United.

But every season someone somewhere beats the odds. Expected Goals are pretty accurate over the long term, but 38 games is short-term enough that teams can significantly over-perform. And why not Newcastle United, even managed by a guy who’s not really into tactics?

So you can say Bruce has been lucky, or you can say he’s made his luck by fostering a clear identity and a fighting spirit. Either or both, it’s been most gratifying to watch. But beware: you can beat the odds one season, but you almost never do it twice in a row. With 22 points in the bag and a cool 11th place spot in the table, Newcastle are heading for safety. But survival this year won’t help them one bit the next. If S. R. B. is still behind the big desk come next August, and Mike Ashley is still doing his Smaug act, don’t be surprised if they’re one of the favourites to go down again.

https://www.football365.com/news/luck-defending-and-passion-how-newcastle-are-thriving

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1 hour ago, Tomaszk said:

Great scummy move by Ashley those tickets.

All of them need to resist if they can. Season or two with fewer fans and he might bin it off. The football certainly won't be pulling them back.

A bunch of fans are suggesting people claim them then leave them empty which would be quite funny.

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2 hours ago, Davkaus said:

A bunch of fans are suggesting people claim them then leave them empty which would be quite funny.

That's definitely what they should be trying to do.

Ashley, fella at arsenal. They are literally never going to sell these clubs while they continue to be profitable, which they will while they're in the PL.

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4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

I said a few weeks ago that a major concern for them was that defenders were scoring a high percentage of their goals from set pieces. It's still a concern that their attackers are largely misfiring, but they have contributed a few goals now, and obviously Shelvey has hit form in front of goal, so they're spreading the load more now. Bruce has done a good job under the circumstances to be honest. 

Yeah he's doing really well. Wonder how long Shelvey will keep up his goalscoring form though. I'd still be nervous if I were a Geordie as I can't see relying on Frederico Fernandez and co for goals paying much dividends in the long term but for right now it's working really well.

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9 hours ago, sne said:

A decade ago, when he was at (whisper it) Sunderland, Bruce was famously quoted as saying “I’m not really into tactics”. And he’s still not, at least not in the complex sense of Graham Potter, Eddie Howe and Chris Wilder, to mention only English managers. But he understands how to organise a defence, and after experimenting in the early matches, and falling as flat as you would from 90 stories, he settled on a no-frills 5-4-1 counter-attacking scheme.

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