HanoiVillan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Just saw an incredible stat regarding Bruce, he has never managed a full Premier League season with a positive goal difference Is that incredible? He's only ever managed bottom-half sides. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Is that incredible? He's only ever managed bottom-half sides. And hes a shit manager, so there's that as well. ...lights blue touch-paper and retires to a safe distance Edited November 17, 2019 by TheStagMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Lascelles is out for three months with knee injury. Not sure if Schar is going to be back for our game but we won't be facing their first choice back 3/5 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Is that incredible? He's only ever managed bottom-half sides. Under Lambert, our goal differences were: -22, -22 and -26 respectively. We stayed up in all those years. Getting to a positive GD in the PL basically means finishing top 7/8. Bruce's highest ever finish was 10th with Sunderland in 2010/11. Would have been an amazing feat for him to ever achieve a positive GD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 So the stat that he's always had negative goal differences can be shot down Him always having bottom half PL teams... How many PL seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, villa4europe said: So the stat that he's always had negative goal differences can be shot down Him always having bottom half PL teams... How many PL seasons? It's not an argument that he's a brilliant manager, just that teams that finish in the bottom half rarely finish with positive goal difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Which I guess in a roundabout way is still an indictment of his managerial ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Is that incredible? He's only ever managed bottom-half sides. Was 9 full seasons though, not just a couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Zatman said: Just saw an incredible stat regarding Bruce, he has never managed a full Premier League season with a positive goal difference He does have the worst goal difference of any Premier League manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) If they win on Monday they go seven points clear of us, this after people on here have been relentlessly bashing Bruce's managerial process, and even celebrated his appointment as Newcastle manager as if it guaranteed that they'd take one of the relegation places and we'd finish above them. I guess he really has shut one or two people up afterall. Edited November 17, 2019 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, useless said: If they win on Monday they go seven points clear of us, this after people on here have been relentlessly bashing Bruce's managerial process, and even celebrated his appointment as Newcastle manager as if it guaranteed that they'd take one of the relegation places and we'd finish above them. I guess he really has shut one or two people up afterall. Wait for it to happen first yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 he's doing what I thought at the start of the Bruce thread he would do with villa after he got us up, keep them up playing god awful going nowhere football that's unsustainable he wont shut me up moaning about him because he'll never change, he'll just take the suffering of his shit somewhere else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 hours ago, useless said: If they win on Monday they go seven points clear of us, this after people on here have been relentlessly bashing Bruce's managerial process, and even celebrated his appointment as Newcastle manager as if it guaranteed that they'd take one of the relegation places and we'd finish above them. I guess he really has shut one or two people up afterall. Bruce's problem is always the long-term. Just like when we had Sherwood and baggies had Pulis, at the time, I still preferred having a chancer like Sherwood over an old-school manager like Pulis who fills a team with expensive old heads, with no plan for the future and one eye on the next pay-out. We got relegated and baggies stayed up, but as expected, Pulis turned to shite and baggies went down with a team of 30-year-olds and loan players. The familiar make-up of a Steve Bruce team. Give Bruce a couple of seasons at Newcastle and they'll be playing the worst football their fans have seen in years, their team will be full of loanees from the Top 7 and players over 30, and they'll still be 'there or there abouts' in the Bottom 7. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 But do they have a Scuba Steve? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 18/11/2019 at 00:56, useless said: If they win on Monday they go seven points clear of us, this after people on here have been relentlessly bashing Bruce's managerial process, and even celebrated his appointment as Newcastle manager as if it guaranteed that they'd take one of the relegation places and we'd finish above them. I guess he really has shut one or two people up afterall. Not after tonight's performance. Anyone who still defends him after that performance and delusional post match interview really needs to give their head a wobble! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just seen a stat that their front three of Almiron, Joelinton, and Saint-Maximin cost £80m and have scored one goal and have two assists between them this season, even if you throw Dwight Gayle into the equation who cost them £10m, they still only have one goal and one assist between them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 25, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2019 I'm so glad Steve Bruce is no longer at this club. When we go to St James Park this season there's absolutely no way we will setup like they did today. Smith is a breath of fresh air compared. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 As was discussed at length in either this thread or the Bruce thread I’d rather go down playing like we did tonight than stay up playing like them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Almiron reminds me so much of Weimann, plays the game at 100mph and constantly rushes his shots and passes. Thought Joenlithon was hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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