MickeyC_UTV Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 4 hours ago, VillaChris said: In the six seasons before Ashley took over Newcastle in June 2007 they finished 4th, 3rd, 5th, 14th, 7th and 13th. In twelve years since they've been relegated twice, finished 15th in 14/15 when they were still in danger of going down on the final day and finished 16th in 12/13. I'm not saying they should be regulars in top 6 as like us that is a bit of a pipe dream but they certainly should be regular top half finishers, they've barely played in europe last decade and done little in the cups (something Ashley has admitted he isn't bothered about). Grabbed this from Reddit I think 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 It's a bit skewed because of Chelsea and moreso City, but he hasn't been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just saw that Potato Head is being linked with the Newcastle job. To go from Rafa/Oil Money to a broke Cabbage within a few weeks. hahaha I almost feel bad... But then again, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted July 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2019 No idea if genuine or not, but anyhow... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Colback's still a Newcastle player?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 They should get Phil Neville purely because I put a bet on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrDuck Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 Rafa's a decent manager, but he doesn't have 4 promotions from the Championship. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 07/07/2019 at 18:40, MickeyC_UTV said: Grabbed this from Reddit I think Although Mike Ashley can't be defended, and Although I can't stand Newcastle. But the stats it's a bit tricky, as prior to Mike Ashley, there were no Man City, Tottenham and Chelsea weren't the ones we know now. It was only top 3 (actually top 2, with Liverpool behind them). Teams like us, Everton and the barcodes used to find it easy to stay up, well to stay top 10. PL wasn't like it is today. The quality has changed a lot. You could establish as a top 10 club. But once you get it wrong you might suffer and play for survival. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, abdulaziz1 said: But the stats it's a bit tricky, as prior to Mike Ashley, there were no Man City, Tottenham and Chelsea weren't the ones we know now. It was only top 3 (actually top 2, with Liverpool behind them). Teams like us, Everton and the barcodes used to find it easy to stay up, well to stay top 10. PL wasn't like it is today. The quality has changed a lot. You could establish as a top 10 club. But once you get it wrong you might suffer and play for survival. Chelsea were premier league winners in 2005 and 2006. I'd suggest they were stronger back then than they are now, as were Arsenal and Man Utd. Spurs were top 5 in both seasons prior to Ashley buying Newcastle. Sure, Man City weren't competitive, but Everton were. Any way you look at it, Newcastle have declined under Ashley, and a lot of the blame for that can be laid on... Mike Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 5 hours ago, MrDuck said: Chelsea were premier league winners in 2005 and 2006. I'd suggest they were stronger back then than they are now, as were Arsenal and Man Utd. Spurs were top 5 in both seasons prior to Ashley buying Newcastle. Sure, Man City weren't competitive, but Everton were. Any way you look at it, Newcastle have declined under Ashley, and a lot of the blame for that can be laid on... Mike Ashley. I mean before Abramovic era. Spurs were ok but they were on par with Us, Everton (well, slightly better). But thr whole circumstances were different. If we had NSWE by they we would have easily went to the CL. The toon getting around top 4 is a great achive, but its most likely on par with what the dingles are doing. Probably dingles are run better but the circumstances can’t help at all which needs hell of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 They actually want Bruce Fantastic news 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2019 Do they actually have any Geordies in their team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I think Colback is still on books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 00:04, VillaChris said: It was more 10-15 years ago when they were signing likes of Owen and also the return of Keegan. They were getting more press for then finishing 12th or 14th than we got for finishing 6th that couple of seasons. All died a death with their relegations, now it's just what Mike Ashley does or frequently dosen't. Their lax approach to actually appointing a new manager says it all. I do get the impression though Newcastle fans enjoying beating us more than majority of other clubs due to our laughing at them twice going down at VP. We'd do exactly the same thing if roles were reversed. Instead, we're in the position of wanting to do well against/disliking Newcastle because they dislike us because we laughed at them (twice) being relegated at VP. Football fans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Sky sports saying a official approach is looming I can't wait to see that big fat Geordie on YouTube's reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villa4europe Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 10 hours ago, MrDuck said: Any way you look at it, Newcastle have declined under Ashley, and a lot of the blame for that can be laid on... Mike Ashley. the problem being they're declining from a purple patch rather than declining from their natural footing, arguably inevitable, the 3 years prior to him buying them they had finished 13th, 7th and 14th in the league, played in Europe 3 times but twice thanks to the intertoto and reached 1 FA cup semi final, that graphic makes them look a lot better than what they were, the top four finishes were over 5 years before Ashley and when they still had shearer's goals I personally would pitch them around 10th in the PL, when we were in the PL pre lerner's meltdown my barometer for villa was usually everton, Newcastle's to me is west ham and they were 7 points off them last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) They would have gone down had it not been with rafa. If they seriously go for Bruce they will be in for a relegation battle this year. Edited July 10, 2019 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) It's the perfect job. 3 year contract, 3 months at the job and then the sack and compo. Then a couple of months off for golf and then a new job at some desperate club trying to avoid the drop. Then repeat... Can see any number of the usual suspects being up for this gig. Edited July 10, 2019 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, sne said: It's the perfect job. 3 year contract, 3 months at the job and then the sack and compo. Then a couple of months off for golf and then a new job at some desperate club trying to avoid the drop. The repeat... Can see any number of the usual suspects being up for this gig. Not to mention he can, once again, use the excuse that he used to manage "that lot down the road", and that's why Newcastle aren't happy at his 17 games without a goal. Bloody hysteria! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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