TheStagMan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: More than Davis Debatable Edited December 28, 2020 by TheStagMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, TheStagMan said: Debateable It isn’t though but let’s leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: It isn’t though but let’s leave it there. Let's. He's rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, TheStagMan said: Let's. He's rubbish. Glad you finally agree on Davis at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Can someone mod this mess plz? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Glad you finally agree on Davis at least. I never said he wasn't rubbish. I said he was better than (current) Benteke. Edited December 28, 2020 by TheStagMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Benteke won 13 header duels today apparently, which is something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I always thought the fantasy of bringing Benteke back as a backup was silly, but seeing him play for Palace today made me rethink that. Rolled the years back to 2013. The only thing he doesn't have in his locker anymore are the spectacular goals. His long range shooting is not good anymore unfortunately. But I imagine he'd be very dangerous in our team and the way we've been playing. That Palace team aren't as cohesive as us, and Eze is still raw so isn't deadly yet. He's probably on stupid money, but we could do worse than him as backup to Ollie in select games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 14, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: I always thought the fantasy of bringing Benteke back as a backup was silly, but seeing him play for Palace today made me rethink that. Rolled the years back to 2013. The only thing he doesn't have in his locker anymore are the spectacular goals. His long range shooting is not good anymore unfortunately. But I imagine he'd be very dangerous in our team and the way we've been playing. That Palace team aren't as cohesive as us, and Eze is still raw so isn't deadly yet. He's probably on stupid money, but we could do worse than him as backup to Ollie in select games. Exactly. I agree he has lost some of his magic but he would still be a very useful option in our squad and would make an impact. I still maintain he is one of the biggest confidence players I've ever seen, he still is now. Imagine us back in a packed Villa Park with the fans singing his name like they used to, he gets a goal or two, I think we would see a different player. Not the same player that left but not the same player that we see at Palace. He would score 10 from crosses from Jack alone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Exactly. I agree he has lost some of his magic but he would still be a very useful option in our squad and would make an impact. I still maintain he is one of the biggest confidence players I've ever seen, he still is now. Imagine us back in a packed Villa Park with the fans singing his name like they used to, he gets a goal or two, I think we would see a different player. Not the same player that left but not the same player that we see at Palace. He would score 10 from crosses from Jack alone. His hold up play was ridiculous. He won everything. The ball stuck to him and he laid it off perfectly, only for Townsend or Zaha to mess it up. I'm just thinking about him laying it off for Jack or Bertrand and then it's a wrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Exactly. I agree he has lost some of his magic but he would still be a very useful option in our squad and would make an impact. I still maintain he is one of the biggest confidence players I've ever seen, he still is now. Imagine us back in a packed Villa Park with the fans singing his name like they used to, he gets a goal or two, I think we would see a different player. Not the same player that left but not the same player that we see at Palace. He would score 10 from crosses from Jack alone. Huge confidence player, his decline started when he stopped being loved (His mate Kristof Terreur said this). Not convinced of his mobility and (more importantly) his hunger, I have seen him play a couple of times in the last 18 months and he doesn't look like he believes.....probably because he just wants to be loved again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 14, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, Keyblade said: His hold up play was ridiculous. He won everything. The ball stuck to him and he laid it off perfectly, only for Townsend or Zaha to mess it up. I'm just thinking about him laying it off for Jack or Bertrand and then it's a wrap. Yep few if any better than him at it in the league he is excellent at it, likewise defending a near post in his own box. He offers a lot to a team, I'd love to have him as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 14, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, AndyClarke said: Huge confidence player, his decline started when he stopped being loved (His mate Kristof Terreur said this). Not convinced of his mobility and (more importantly) his hunger, I have seen him play a couple of times in the last 18 months and he doesn't look like he believes.....probably because he just wants to be loved again. He absolutely needs it, it isn't ego its self doubt in my view he needs affirmation its why his goals used to come in bursts. He looked like he had it back a little before his sending off the other week. Palace and Roy is such a bad fit. I agree he perhaps lacks a little hunger but call me a romantic but again, back in B6, crowd singing his name a team with quality creating chances and do more than eek out a 0-0, I think he would get some of that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: He absolutely needs it, it isn't ego its self doubt in my view he needs affirmation its why his goals used to come in bursts. He looked like he had it back a little before his sending off the other week. Palace and Roy is such a bad fit. I agree he perhaps lacks a little hunger but call me a romantic but again, back in B6, crowd singing his name a team with quality creating chances and do more than eek out a 0-0, I think he would get some of that back. You never go back in football it rarely works sadly. Doesn't suit what we do but on the odd occasion he could be great. Don't see it unless he was one of two coming in because we've got to find someone who can do (something like) what Watkins does. The reality of his huge wages makes it highly unlikely all round. He can retire to China or similar on probably even more handsome wages than he is on today and Villa aren't going to pay the £15-20 million to give him a 3 year deal, even if there was no transfer fee. Edited January 14, 2021 by AndyClarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 14, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, AndyClarke said: You never go back in football it rarely works sadly. Doesn't suit what we do but on the odd occasion he could be great. Don't see it unless he was one of two coming in because we've got to find someone who can do (something like) what Watkins does. The reality of his huge wages makes it highly unlikely all round. He can retire to China or similar on probably even more handsome wages than he is on today and Villa aren't going to pay the £15-20 million to give him a 3 year deal, even if there was no transfer fee. There is next to no chance I'm sure sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 The same Beneteke that seen Villa as a 'stepping stone' to bigger things! I wouldn't have him back here in any capacity and he's done nothing since he left Villa to prove otherwise either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 hours ago, TrentVilla said: There is next to no chance I'm sure sadly. Good. One good performance does not change the fact that current Benteke is not worth trying to bring back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Lovely goal against Brighton tonight, and then a little mention of us in the post-match interview: Q: Have you scored as dramatic a goal as that for Palace before? A: I'm not sure . . . maybe for Aston Villa . . . Do I detect a little hint of wistfulness there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Lovely goal against Brighton tonight, and then a little mention of us in the post-match interview: Q: Have you scored as dramatic a goal as that for Palace before? A: I'm not sure . . . maybe for Aston Villa . . . Do I detect a little hint of wistfulness there? He really was the man here. He's never had that since. I'd take him back here in a heartbeat. Neither Davis, or unfortunately Wesley at the moment can come off the bench and do what he did tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 23, 2021 Screw it. Get him in on a free. Nostalgia or not I'd have him back. As @Keyblade says he's better than any other options we have on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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