TheStagMan Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Backup for what? Because you can't mean football. Well, he certainly wouldn't turn us back into a retirement home for past it footballers who had a few good years and are now largely overpaid junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Well, he certainly wouldn't turn us back into a retirement home for past it footballers who had a few good years and are now largely overpaid junk. No, because he would have had to be a good footballer before he could be a past it one. Benteke scored as many goals against West Brom as Davis has scored in his career to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: No, because he would have had to be a good footballer before he could be a past it one. Benteke scored as many goals against West Brom as Davis has scored in his career to date. I'll stick to what I said thanks. Keinan offers more to the team than Benteke would. To suggest otherwise is sentimental nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: I'll stick to what I said thanks. Keinan offers more to the team than Benteke would. To suggest otherwise is sentimental nonsense. No, it isn't. It is my view based on their current levels of ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Backup for what? Because you can't mean football. This is a little harsh. I agree that we could do much better in terms of backup than Davis. That said, for the most part he does the job of a center forward very well. The only thing he doesn't do is score. If he did, we'd be lauding him as a brilliant target man. Scoring goals is not the only measure of a player. You only need to look at Ollie's performance against Palace to see that. Davis is very good at holding up the ball and bringing the midfield into play, traits which were pretty valuable to us at times last season. He defends from the front too, something Smith specifically mentioned about Ollie. He's not great, Benteke is certainly better overall, but to imply he's got no footballing ability at all is unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Greenfly said: This is a little harsh. I agree that we could do much better in terms of backup than Davis. That said, for the most part he does the job of a center forward very well. The only thing he doesn't do is score. If he did, we'd be lauding him as a brilliant target man. Scoring goals is not the only measure of a player. You only need to look at Ollie's performance against Palace to see that. Davis is very good at holding up the ball and bringing the midfield into play, traits which were pretty valuable to us at times last season. He defends from the front too, something Smith specifically mentioned about Ollie. He's not great, Benteke is certainly better overall, but to imply he's got no footballing ability at all is unfair. It was a little tongue in cheek I don't though think he is good enough for the PL personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 hours ago, TrentVilla said: It was a little tongue in cheek I don't though think he is good enough for the PL personally. Fair enough. There are few things I want more than for him to start banging goals in right now. He'd be so good if he did. He has pretty much every other trait down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I don't think it would be good for the group to have a 30 year old football moping about and winding down his career on huge wages and possibly providing bad examples. Never going to happen. Is he better than Davis of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Benteke has been awful for several years, it would be madness to consider re-signing him. He could have left Palace for free to sign a big payday somewhere but instead opted to take the 1 year option on his current contact. What that means is that his agent couldn’t find him another deal elsewhere even on a free. He’s finished at this level, physically and mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 hours ago, TrentVilla said: No, it isn't. It is my view based on their current levels of ability. With all due respect, you are seeing something that simply isn't there. Benteke is done, has been for a few years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: With all due respect, you are seeing something that simply isn't there. Benteke is done, has been for a few years now. That’s your opinion, it’s not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted December 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 hours ago, TrentVilla said: That’s your opinion, it’s not mine. It doesn’t appear to be the opinion of Roy Hodgson either. He keeps picking him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, choffer said: It doesn’t appear to be the opinion of Roy Hodgson either. He keeps picking him. Not sure he has many options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted December 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Not sure he has many options. Ayew, Zaha, Benteke, Wickham, Batshuayi, Pierrick (nope, me neither ). Not an embarrassment of riches but there’s worse lists in the Premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Benteke has regressed but he's still a capable striker. Palace just don't play to his strengths at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, choffer said: Ayew, Zaha, Benteke, Wickham, Batshuayi, Pierrick (nope, me neither ). Not an embarrassment of riches but there’s worse lists in the Premier league. Ayew: Shit, but played today Zaha: Decent Wickham: injured, shit Batshuayi: came on against us, shit Pierrick: too shit to even get in the squad I can see why Benteke is getting game time (and it’s not because he’s good). His rating today was 9th out of 11 starters. Edited December 28, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 hours ago, TrentVilla said: That’s your opinion, it’s not mine. Indeed it is my opinion. It just happens to be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Indeed it is my opinion. It just happens to be right. Well obviously you think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: Well obviously you think it is. Did well today, almost got his header on target. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Did well today, almost got his header on target. Almost. More than Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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