Adam2003 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Sun article mentioning Drinkwater says in bold only 2 loans so what's this last clause on PL official page? I don't understand With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas. https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747 I think players from abroad don’t count. So the Premier League website is correct and The Sun is wrong. But I’m never certain of anything these days... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Benteke back in his Villa days would basically assist his own goals to keep us in the league. It’s remarkable how much he’s fallen. I just can’t believe he hasn’t got it in his locker anymore. Part of me thinks being back here will rejuvenate him. The other part says he’s past it and even if he does come back here it’s an entirely different squad, management and ownership. Not much is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 OOOOOH CHRISTIAN BENTEKE! Would to love hearing that being belt out of the Holte End again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Benteke is finished. The bloke has scored 4 goals in 3 seasons, I'm seriously struggling to understand why people want him back. Like I said in the transfer thread, him returning like he is now would ruin the memories so a big no from me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I'd **** hate to sign a 29 year with far too many injuries had and 4 goals in last 3 seasons and I thought that would be majority opinion but clearly not Dunno, a lot of people here seem to agree with you too. But the way I see it, we're not exactly flush options and we're also signing a highly promising child who may mature into an excellent striker in 2-3 years, so the fact Benteke will be over the hill in a few years doesn't bother me so much. Don't get me wrong, I think it's perfectly valid to question whether he'll be able to deliver for us based on his form over the past few years. I just think form is temporary and class is permanent, and for strikers a lot just comes down to confidence and outright blind luck. But yeah, he'd be a roll of the dice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Better of taking a risk on someone like Mcauley Bonne. He was absolutely devastating in the Conference and doesn't seem to have lost any confidence in the championship this season. Benteke isn't even fit to come in and play for Villa now, he's injured yet again and he'll just continue to keep picking up injury after injury as he's not got the match fitness and to get it we'll have to throw him in at the deep end which is just going to be too much too soon and have him picking up niggles again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Spoony said: Benteke back in his Villa days would basically assist his own goals to keep us in the league. It’s remarkable how much he’s fallen. I just can’t believe he hasn’t got it in his locker anymore. Yeah, this I how I feel too. I seem to remember there were extended periods where people called him the "Belgian Heskey" back in the day too, because he was crap for us for a while too. I mean, he can't have just forgotten how to play football, right? If we're going to give someone an extended run in the first team then the ideal is a proven PL quality striker - problem is there don't seem to be any of them on the table right now. In the absence of that it's a question of whether you get someone trying to recapture past glories or someone trying to deliver on unproven talents, and I'm not necessarily averse to the first option. Edit: Rose tinted glasses aside, I'm quite a bit less keen if he is indeed currently injured as the poster above said. It's important whoever we get is able to slot into the team now. Edited January 11, 2020 by Panto_Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Farlz said: Benteke is finished. The bloke has scored 4 goals in 3 seasons, I'm seriously struggling to understand why people want him back. Like I said in the transfer thread, him returning like he is now would ruin the memories so a big no from me. Pretty much this. And I thought he was **** legendary when wearing our shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltorken Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Completely speaking from the heart rather than the head but bring him home, he's been crap for years but he didn't just become a crap player. His confidence is shot. He needs to be loved, might give him a second wind coming back. I'd take him over Glen Murray. He has a unique track record of keeping villa up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 We need to do what Tim Sherwood did for him. He couldn't hit a barn door in the last few months of Lambert's reign, but Sherwood put an arm around him, played to his strengths and completely rejuvenated him and turned him into the deadliest striker in the league at that period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, kiltorken said: Completely speaking from the heart rather than the head but bring him home, he's been crap for years but he didn't just become a crap player. His confidence is shot. He needs to be loved, might give him a second wind coming back. I'd take him over Glen Murray. He has a unique track record of keeping villa up. 1. He has been crap for years so he has become crap or do words have no meaning? 2. What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Keyblade said: We need to do what Tim Sherwood did for him. He couldn't hit a barn door in the last few months of Lambert's reign, but Sherwood put an arm around him, played to his strengths and completely rejuvenated him and turned him into the deadliest striker in the league at that period. Yeah Roy Hodgson can't get a tune out of him last 3 seasons but just needs arm around him. Absolute simplistic nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Yeah Roy Hodgson can't get a tune out of him last 3 seasons but just needs arm around him. Absolute simplistic nonsense He doesn't play him and/or he's injured. I'm also talking about in the event we actually sign him which is all speculation right now. I wouldn't even want to sign him in the first place. But if it does happen, then I think theres still a bit of gas left in the tank there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 No way this will happen, the board and DS would have officially lost their minds if it does. Chasing nostalgia always ends in disappointment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, AndyC said: No way this will happen, the board and DS would have officially lost their minds if it does. Chasing nostalgia always ends in disappointment. I would've had Whittingham back from GT Mk II letting him go sooner than Benteke back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I would've had Whittingham back from GT Mk II letting him go sooner than Benteke back I do wish you would come off the fence on this Benteke issue @Kiwivillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltorken Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: 1. He has been crap for years so he has become crap or do words have no meaning? 2. What does that even mean? If you read my whole post it alluded to him suffering from confidence issues causing him to appear crap rather than him actually losing his football abilities. Do you understand? Apologies it was such a complex piece I wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 11, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2020 Villa shouldn’t be even contemplating bringing Benteke back due to his recent record with Palace including his injury record. Personally I don’t even think he’s on the radar of the club with one duff signing already up front with Wesley. I think Smith is looking for a completely different type of striker as he already has two target men albeit both injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Spoony said: Benteke back in his Villa days would basically assist his own goals to keep us in the league. It’s remarkable how much he’s fallen. I just can’t believe he hasn’t got it in his locker anymore. Part of me thinks being back here will rejuvenate him. The other part says he’s past it and even if he does come back here it’s an entirely different squad, management and ownership. Not much is the same. I don't rate the Palace team for him, Zaha loves to hold the ball for way too long and they don't cross the ball enough. I think he still might have it in him, either way I need to see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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