Killeen30 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, AJ said: To be honest, I have mixed feelings about this. In my opinion, he is not one of our better performers for us. He has played well a few games, but the majority of times he has been pretty bad for us. Even the game when he stupidly pushed the linesman last season, he was playing well up to then, and several considered making him MOTM if it wasn't for that idiotic moment. He has also said some stupid things, like deserving to be in a Champions League team. I am not sorry to see him go, but I wish it was for different reasons and circumstances. I remember the video of the fans confronting the players as they got on the bus after playing Wycombe 2 seasons ago. Bacuna was singled out, and his response was to give a smile back before hopping on the bus. Are we, as fans, becoming a negative influence on our own players? The power of the fans is never to be underestimated. While some players are at clubs for 10 plus years, others until their contracts are up, or leave as soon as " something better" is offered, the fan is with the club until their heart stops. Nobody loves a club more than a fan, even more so than the owner. The fan, in their enmasse, can lift average players to perform like they are gods. When a player is encouraged by the fans, they feel a little less mercenary, and want to do more for the club. Also, it feels good when a large group of people are cheering you on. Unfortunately, there is a flip side. Fans can also break players. It is also catalytic. The players bond between themselves. If the fans don't like a player, who are the other players going to support, the player or the fans? When Craig Gardner said those things last season about Villa, he came across as an utter bell end. We knew what Villa had done for him to have a football career, and nobody knew better than that than Craig Gardner. He came across as an idiotic ungrateful prick, but, after reading what he said, could you not help liking his brother Gary a little bit? I hope Bacuna gets his move. I agree it is best for him, and especially for us. What did Craig Gardner say about Villa last season? I missed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Calling all you Champions League clubs, he's yours if you want him. Come and get! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 17 hours ago, av1 said: Watching him yesterday whilst considering the fact that the club rejected a £1.5m bid made me think that even at 38, and a couple of stone overweight, it might not be too late. Wait, thoughts... check, weight... check, age... check. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted August 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2017 7 hours ago, VillanousOne said: The hate has got way out of hand, most of our midfield had a shocker at least at some point in the 90mins on Sat. I would prefer Conor or Bjork any day over Bacuna but there is little point making him the scape goat, it's just over the top and does no one any good. Bacuna is the scapegoat now and there's nothing you can about it! In fairness he's done well to earn that from Gabby or Hutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Bacuna is the scapegoat now and there's nothing you can about it! In fairness he's done well to earn that from Gabby or Hutton. And to be fair to Hutton and Gabby on Saturday one player got MOTM and the other scored. Both performances were better than Bacuna has offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Scapegoat? What the hell are you lot on about? He's bearing the blame for his own actions not the actions of others. Edited August 7, 2017 by VILLAMARV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Pointless player but loved by the manager which is scary Pointless dig at Bruce is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2017 35 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Bacuna is the worst player in the squad now and there's nothing you can about it! In fairness he's done well to earn that from Gabby or Hutton. Fixed that for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Pointless dig at Bruce is pointless. Wasnt a dig, its obvious Bruce rates him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2017 Just now, Zatman said: Wasnt a dig, its obvious Bruce rates him You said Bruce "loves" him. Based on what? because he started against Hull? I think you were exaggerating to make it more of a dig at Bruce than it needed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I like Bacuna. Always have. He always puts a shift in and he does have some quality. However, he is very inconsistent and a poor passer. He should have never been booed but also he needs to have a thicker skin if he wants to be a professional footballer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Killeen30 said: What did Craig Gardner say about Villa last season? I missed that! After their last game of the season in which they avoided relegation by a foreskin, a reporter asked him what it was like to avoid relegation. He took the opportunity to say that Bloser fans are " class people" ( ), and spent most of his answer to the question ripping on Villa and its fans. He comes across as a total dickhead. Or, and I know its a stretch, he may have thrown himself under the bus to take the flak off Gary, who was getting a lot of heat from fans at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 If he has handed in a transfer request he forfeits any loyalty payments...so he hasn't handed in a transfer request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: If he has handed in a transfer request he forfeits any loyalty payments...so he hasn't handed in a transfer request. Loyalty payments? We pay Bacuna this for what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 42 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: You said Bruce "loves" him. Based on what? because he started against Hull? I think you were exaggerating to make it more of a dig at Bruce than it needed to be. He continued playing him last year after his ban even when Hourihane and the team was hitting a bit of form. Bacuna played rest of season and we won once after his return 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: Bacuna is the scapegoat now and there's nothing you can about it! In fairness he's done well to earn that from Gabby or Hutton. What a load of bollocks. Bacuna is just a terrible footballer. One of the worst ever to wear our esteemed shirt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phumfeinz Posted August 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2017 If he has indeed handed in a transfer request then I fully applaud those at villa park responsible 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 57 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Loyalty payments? We pay Bacuna this for what exactly? Every player gets paid a 'loyalty payment' spread out over the duration of the contract in addition to their monthly salary. If they leave and haven't requested to do so they are still entitled to this. (I believe) That is why nobody really hands in transfer requests anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted August 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, vreitti said: What a load of bollocks. Bacuna is just a terrible footballer. One of the worst ever to wear our esteemed shirt. U OK Hun? What's bollocks? He is terrible I agree, that's how he's earned that status ahead of other crap footballers as I said... Edited August 7, 2017 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 54 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: U OK Hun? What's bollocks? He is terrible I agree, that's how he's earned that status ahead of other crap footballers as I said... Sorry my bad, thought you had the nerve to actually defend the poor bugger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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