A'Villan Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 12/08/2019 at 07:22, Bizzzle said: Pretty clear if you understand French I do. I grew up learning that speaking it needed to be excused. However I don see where it says, "f*** off, you f***ing clown!" Nothing of the like, so certainly not French. Must be gibberish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Money, fame, pressure, social media and his manager/agent/dad ruined him as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Neymar never had the tools or attitude to be Messi or Ronaldo level but he had lots of hype. Good player but not as good as him or Brazil thinks he is. So happy Brazil won the Copa without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Zatman said: Neymar never had the tools or attitude to be Messi or Ronaldo level but he had lots of hype. Good player but not as good as him or Brazil thinks he is. So happy Brazil won the Copa without him Clearly haven't watched the highlights reel I just posted of his game pre-Barca move. I know Neymar was 3 years older than Cristiano, but Neymar at Santos is quite a bit more impressive than Cristiano at Sporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Clearly haven't watched the highlights reel I just posted of his game pre-Barca move. I know Neymar was 3 years older than Cristiano, but Neymar at Santos is quite a bit more impressive than Cristiano at Sporting. Copa Liberatadores and Brazilian leagues arent great especially defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Is Neymar any better than Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho or Kaka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Xela said: Is Neymar any better than Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho or Kaka? No. Peak Adriano and arguably Robinho pre City were better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I agree Adriano could have been an absolute titan of a player a real atg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Xela said: Is Neymar any better than Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho or Kaka? Neymar probably doesn't even go down as a top 10 Brazilian of this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 but he'll end up with stats that beat the lot of them, he's 17 goals off pele, 2 behind Ronaldo having played 1 game less and will probably end up with more club silverware than any Brazilian player he's a tier down from messi and Ronaldo but he's definitely in that tier (alongside the likes of Griezmann, hazard etc) he's a good player, just a massive dick trying to think of who to compare him to, someone who gets little respect of their talent because people just think he's a dick, obviously pobga, probably Busquets but his is maybe more down to his position too, Sergio Ramos, Zlatan, previously maybe sterling but I think he's broken free of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 20 hours ago, A'Villan said: I know Neymar was 3 years older than Cristiano, but Neymar at Santos is quite a bit more impressive than Cristiano at Sporting. Yes, but Cristiano at 34 years is more impressive than Neymar at 27. In fact, I can think of 10 players who are. He is not even the best player in his team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: but he'll end up with stats that beat the lot of them, he's 17 goals off pele, 2 behind Ronaldo having played 1 game less and will probably end up with more club silverware than any Brazilian player Means nothing in Brazil without the World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 16, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2019 He has longevity on his side, especially as he started so young. Compared to players like Ronaldinho who really only operated at the elite level for a handful of seasons. But if you're talking about how good they were at their peak then I agree Neymar probably doesn't make the top 10 Brazilians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 16, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2019 He's scored some amazing goals though. This is a superb goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He's scored some amazing goals though. This is a superb goal I still can’t work out what he did there. Superb goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 That's called a stop and go but don't think I've ever seen one with the opponent squared up like that and the player going around them That's physical as **** too! The play acting he does now looks way out of place when you watch that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 There is no doubt that he is an extremely talented player. But rather than adapting to the physical treatment he received (Messi, CR, Ronaldinho etc all had to), Neymar decided to go down the down the diving play acting route. Plus add to the fact he has a massive ego, thinks he’s bigger than the clubs and likes to party (which a lot of top Brazilians do), means he’s never got to absolute highs he should have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Messi, Pique and Suarez begging for him back at Barca. No way Messi, Suarez, Neymar and Griezmann can play together. Only Griezmann tracks back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Zatman said: Messi, Pique and Suarez begging for him back at Barca. No way Messi, Suarez, Neymar and Griezmann can play together. Only Griezmann tracks back Suarez is finished at the very highest level I think. will still score but not play and chase like he did. I really hope Neymar ends up back at Barca, they deserve each other. I just hope PSG stand their ground and force Barca to give up more than they want to for him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, sne said: Suarez is finished at the very highest level I think. will still score but not play and chase like he did. I really hope Neymar ends up back at Barca, they deserve each other. I just hope PSG stand their ground and force Barca to give up more than they want to for him.. I hope PSG do. They **** Barca in how they signed him and be hilarious if did the same when selling him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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