The_Rev Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Is that 26 wins in 27 games for Bayern? 24 in 25 according to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Why are Bayern are replacing their manager at the end of the season? He is retiring. He turns 68 next week, though for the last couple of months (and certainly on TV last night) people are reporting he has either changed his mind or didn't want to retire all along and Bayern have forced him upstairs. There is probably an element of truth in that but I guess if Pep was available this year and Bayern had a manager who is quite an old man in charge then they probably felt the need to move quickly. What if they kept Heynckes for another season and he decided to retire next summer but the managerial merry go round had seen Pep go to Manchester City and Mourinho go to Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) Why are Bayern are replacing their manager at the end of the season? I think Jupp Heynckes wants to retire at the end of the season. Although he has said he'd consider coaching in England or once more in Spain before he retires completely. --EDIT-- The Reverand said it better Edited April 24, 2013 by 8pints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Ah ok, thanks. I wondered if he was being sacked simply cos Pep was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Is that 26 wins in 27 games for Bayern? 24 in 25 according to this. My mistake. There are alot of high scoring games on that list and only lost 3 times all season across league and cups. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Ah ok, thanks. I wondered if he was being sacked simply cos Pep was available. Bayern aren't Chel$ea, thank God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2013 Unbelievable stuff from Bayern. I said they'd win, because they're brilliant, but I never expected a result like that. Now I'm a fan of Barca, I love to watch them play and don't have any of the hate that some people (on here especially) have for them. But I must admit I did take some pleasure in seeing them get totally spanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 The result wasn't even the most shocking part. It was just how easily they stopped Barcelona playing. Wasn't even a 'Park the bus and counter attack' policy like Chelsea did, it was just organised midfield, press them high up the pitch and don't let them get near the goal. Barcelona didn't look like scoring all night - it really was a humiliation of a football game. Tie isn't over yet though, Bayern still have some work to do.. Barcelona at the Nou Camp can still score 5 so Bayern can't go to sleep. Barce not getting an away goal could be crucial though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2013 With Bayern's defence this season, I think 5 goals is beyond even Barcelona. 5 goals would be 20% of all the (competitive) goals conceded by Bayern all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Bayern just crushed them. They took the Real Madrid approach and added their own game to it to devastating effect Barcelona have been average for quite a while. Milan and PSG should have knocked them out in previous rounds and they lost to Celtic. I said before Gerard Pique is just a poor defender and last night proved it again. they need reinforcements and tell MEssi to take rest of season off as he shouldnt have been on that pitch last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 They did look shattered (and have done for a while), but the game plan has been found out. Teams don't need to park the bus and sneak a win anymore, they can play football and score goals against them, because, when Messi isn't fit, Barca aren't direct enough, they just piss about with the ball, create nothing, and struggle. I think they need a few fresh faces to take the burden off Messi, and a defender or two who can win a header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 another thing is what has happened to Fabregas, most games I saw him and he has been dreadful. His decline is close enough to Torres for me. Is it they looked good in average teams or just the move has killed them as not the star player anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 its not as bad as torres, his position has changed, he plays a no 10 role, played 27 league games, 10 goals and 10 assists according to wiki, i dont think he fits the shape of the team, would like to see him play the role he did for arsenal still he's been better than alexis this year who has been utter shite, i think thiago has been a bit disappointing too, ballague summed it up last night, barca are very poor from the bench at the moment, either dont use subs, havent got a great line up on the bench or their subs have very little impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Yeah Fabregas hasn't been great for a while. Agree that they should rest Messi. Now they are almost certainly out of the CL and La Liga winners they should give him the rest of the season off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 He has been so shit he scored a hat trick two weeks ago. The sound of knees jerking in this thread is deafening today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 was against a team with Alan Hutton in defence. Not the benchmark of great form the goal tally looks impressive BUT when watch him play for Spain and Barcelona he seems lost and disappears a lot from games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) was against a team with Alan Hutton in defence. Not the benchmark of great form the goal tally looks impressive BUT when watch him play for Spain and Barcelona he seems lost and disappears a lot from games True!! Edited April 24, 2013 by turnbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 yep 28 goals and 31 assists in 2 seasons is judged as poor form at barcelona... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted April 24, 2013 Author VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2013 I can understand that people aren't fans of Barcelona, but some of the responses to their loss are way off the mark. They do have quite a few problems, but the abilities of Piqué, Jordi Alba and Fabregas aren't amongst them. Cesc's form has been patchy, considering the high standards not only of Barça but those that he's set himself, but he rarely plays in his natural position (or, for that matter, the one he's expected to fill in the future: the role of Xavi). The lack of a decent centre-back to partner Piqué was a massive issue last night. Barça have needed a new defender for a while, but they probably didn't expect to have Puyol, Mascherano and Adriano all out injured. I know that the latter is still inexperienced at centre-back, but he's played very well in that position when called upon, and I think he would have been an improvement on Bartra. Adding to that, Messi clearly wasn't fit. However, if he didn't start and Barça still lost by the same scoreline - which is entirely feasible - many would have been pointing out that it was surely worth the risk if he was available. Busquets wasn't fit either, and that makes a huge difference, but seems to have gone unnoticed. Once again, the club's transfer policy comes into question here, as Song simply isn't at anywhere near the same level. Other players did look fatigued too, as has been pointed out. Iniesta was amongst them: despite Bayern's excellent pressing and organisation, a fully fit and on-form Iniesta is practically unstoppable. I was surprised that Alexis started ahead of Villa, too, as he hasn't had much confidence all season. There's a very good player in there and he's still shown it at times, but his instincts just aren't right and he's over-thinking far too much. Still, all that aside, Bayern were on fire last night. They have some wonderful players, many of whom put in the shift of their lives. They played selflessly, confidently and, above all, very effectively. As much as I dislike them, they were brilliant, and exploited the various weaknesses of the side that were put in front of them, and then some. I just hope that Dortmund can get a result tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Lewandowski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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