useless Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 If their fans get behind it and it creates a party like atmosphere on matchdays, that in itself might be enough to keep them up, regardless of how good Advocaat is himself. Would be useful if West Ham could get a big win on Saturday to dampen the spirits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 If their fans get behind it and it creates a party like atmosphere on matchdays, that in itself might be enough to keep them up, regardless of how good Advocaat is himself. Totally disagree. They need a massive kick up the arse, Advocaat is not the man to give them that. You need to give the fans something to cheer, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I have a feeling they'll go for Warburton. He was immense against Ireland but I'm not sure what he could bring to Sunderland. Some nice bread maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) If their fans get behind it and it creates a party like atmosphere on matchdays, that in itself might be enough to keep them up, regardless of how good Advocaat is himself. Totally disagree. They need a massive kick up the arse, Advocaat is not the man to give them that. You need to give the fans something to cheer, not the other way around. I never said that you don't need to give the fans something to cheer. When Sunderland got in Di Canio and O'Neill in similar circumstances, one of the big reasons for the turn around in results was the affect the appointments had on the supporters. Both created a big buzz at the place. That's why I'd like to see West Ham thrash them on Saturday to kill that buzz before it propels them to safety. Edited March 17, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 He's an absolute dinosaur. Anyone remember Howard Wilkinson... Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 17, 2015 You know what, my football knowledge (well, foreign football knowledge) is so limited I really have no idea who this dude is, or what to expect from him. I have a feeling it will completely backfire for them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Reminds me of the Magath appointment last season by Fulham. Another manager with no premier league experience who has never been relegated. He'll take them down. Edited March 17, 2015 by Arj Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I read earlier (can't remember where so no link, sorry) that Ellis Short asked both SAF and Carlo Ancelotti for advice on who could come and firefight. Random? The famous SAF recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Maybe it'll work out, but right at this moment it makes me feel safer knowing he's there. Edited March 17, 2015 by flamingsombrero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Maybe it'll work out, but right at this moment it makes me feel safer knowing he's there. Still would've preferred Poyet to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Deserving of its own thread I think. Disaster waiting to happen or master stroke? They say he has motivation skills, maybe he does on impressionable players but established premier league players? Will they react well to his special brand of management? The circus currently surrounding him could actually deflect a bit of pressure away from his team as well and may help them. I actually hope the appointment backfires spectacularly , not least because it helps us but also because I think he is a totally objectionable character with repugnant views. I also think he deserves payback for his comments against us after we did his team in the cup earlier this season so I hope we hammer them at VP. His appointment could go either way , hence my question at the start. Here's hoping it fails miserably Richard started this thread 2yrs ago and his post could have been made for Poyet, and it could be made today. Here's hoping that this appointment goes the same way as the 2 that preceded it. Deserving of its own thread I think. Disaster waiting to happen or master stroke? They say he has motivation skills, maybe he does on impressionable players but established premier league players? Will they react well to his special brand of management? The circus currently surrounding him could actually deflect a bit of pressure away from his team as well and may help them. I actually hope the appointment backfires spectacularly , not least because it helps us but also because I think he is a totally objectionable character with repugnant views. I also think he deserves payback for his comments against us after we did his team in the cup earlier this season so I hope we hammer them at VP. His appointment could go either way , hence my question at the start. Here's hoping it fails miserably Richard started this thread 2yrs ago and his post could have been made for Poyet, and it could be made today. Here's hoping that this appointment goes the same way as the 2 that preceded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Strange appointment, really can't see Advocaat as the man to galavanise a squad in a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 it's great news for us. Think it guarantees their relegation. Nothing inspirational here, at all. All they needed to do was make a solid appointment and they'd still have a good chance of being ok. But now I'd back Burnley to jump them for survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 "Sunderland have nine games to play but, of the last 10 clubs to sack their manager with 10 games or fewer to go, only two have seen an increase in their points won per game. And both of those were by a mere 0.1 points-per-game." From this skysports page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I read earlier (can't remember where so no link, sorry) that Ellis Short asked both SAF and Carlo Ancelotti for advice on who could come and firefight. Random? The famous SAF recommendation. domt believe it or Sunderland would have hired Big Eck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 McLeish would need a pre-season to properly implement his fabled Dutch system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) McLeish would need a pre-season to properly implement his fabled Dutch system. Heshkey in the hole? Oh Yesh, Edited March 18, 2015 by rodders0223 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2015 They are "reviewing" Johnson's suspension. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Seems like they're panicking and are putting their own survival before a potential child sex charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Innocent until proved guilty and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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