Richard Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Always seems to be a bit of conflict across the world when the economies are buggered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I don't think there is a single scenario of this playing out that doesn't involve NK being wiped off the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 People seem to forget that NK always make outrageous statements like this, and they're always for their own people. They don't actually plan on nuking anyone (they're not that dumb), they just have to keep up the pretences that they're a military power. Show their own people how strong they are. When they inevitably don't get invaded it'll all be down to their military might and threatening destruction on everyone, rather than the reality where people just don't really give a shit about NK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 9, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 9, 2013 It's just more of North Korea playing the spoilt child, no different to any other time they've acted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Don't think DPRK have the capability to hit the US with a missile. They probably have the ability to hit the western half of Alaska where they might kill a few seals or a polar bear or something. They don't have the range to hit any place where people live though. Even if they did fire a missile it would be shot out of the sky by US jets and then Obama would democracy North Korea into oblivion. I'd imagine the North Korean government know exactly what they are up against if they try to pull some shit against America, sadly it appears their civilians have all been brainwashed into thinking that the DPRK are some kind of superpower. They have no idea how badly they would lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The only worry is that they get pushed into a corner and see no way out other than a war with their neighbours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 As opposed to where they are now you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The only worry is that they get pushed into a corner and see no way out other than a war with their neighbours. But the south already have 100x the capabilitys of the north, all the north have is a large military with outdated weapons. It would probably be best for the people of north Korea if they did get invaded to save them from what i imagine is life of misery, i recommend the book nothing to envy by barbera demmerick to see how they live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 One of the biggest problems that the North have is that it kinda suits everybody else to have them in no mans land. South Koreans probably want reunification, I'd imagine there are plenty of families which got cut in half following the Korean war and the splitting of the country but there is no way South Korea can afford to take on 25 million refugees in one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 , sadly it appears their civilians have all been brainwashed into thinking that the DPRK are some kind of superpower. They have no idea how badly they would lose. The civilians may have indoctrination forced on them but they are far from brain washed idiots .... Of course i wouldnt expect any "arab spring" type uprising there any tine soon but the population ( of pyongyang at least ) have quite a good inderstanding of whats going on in the world and their place in it , And they even know they lost to Portugal 7-0 in the World Cup in SA 20 years ago the NK's apparently felt obliged to spit and punch at westerner visitors to show loyalty , now you are met with a smile and a wave and they want to engage you in conversation one of them even moved their bags off the seat on the metro so I could sit next to him and have a chat One of the talks at the DMZ the lady referred to the "surrender " document ( we of course know it as the armistice ) but you could tell she didn't believe it and having followed the line then referred to it as the armistice there on in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) The only worry is that they get pushed into a corner and see no way out other than a war with their neighbours. But the south already have 100x the capabilitys of the north, all the north have is a large military with outdated weapons. It would probably be best for the people of north Korea if they did get invaded to save them from what i imagine is life of misery, i recommend the book nothing to envy by barbera demmerick to see how they live Demick Sanctions plays a part in that though surely ?? ... I saw people digging fields with their bare hands , they don't even have simple tools yet alone tractors ... Plus the land is rather arid and not suitable for growing crops In Pyongyang We were kinda free to wander as long as we stayed in the areas we were allowed to go It's weird to describe , it's like we were presented with a Trueman show with a cast of thousands but I did manage to slip away for a while and saw a near riot break out as a store opened with a limited supply of bread ... I also observed people queing up with ration cards at some form of food stall... It's such a surreal place Edited March 9, 2013 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The only worry is that they get pushed into a corner and see no way out other than a war with their neighbours. But the south already have 100x the capabilitys of the north, all the north have is a large military with outdated weapons. It would probably be best for the people of north Korea if they did get invaded to save them from what i imagine is life of misery, i recommend the book nothing to envy by barbera demmerick to see how they live Demick Sanctions plays a part in that though surely ?? ... I saw people digging fields with their bare hands , they don't even have simple tools yet alone tractors ... Plus the land is rather arid and not suitable for growing crops In Pyongyang We were kinda free to wander as long as we stayed in the areas we were allowed to go It's weird to describe , it's like we were presented with a Trueman show with a cast of thousands but I did manage to slip away for a while and saw a near riot break out as a store opened with a limited supply of bread ... I also observed people queing up with ration cards at some form of food stall... It's such a surreal place i have been fascinated with the place since seeing a doc on national geographic years ago, never felt the need to go though with the stuff thats on youtube, you can take there tour of the country whilst sat in your living room. the book i mentioned (and got the author nearly right) is a good read though, and mentioning NK tractors http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2127534/Learning-drive-tractor-North-Korea--exactly-rocket-science.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) i have been fascinated with the place since seeing a doc on national geographic years ago, never felt the need to go though with the stuff thats on youtube, you can take there tour of the country whilst sat in your living room. I can watch porn on the Internet but its not as good as the real thing Ps I know its the Heil but even so its the sorta general western view of the place that pisses me off the birthplace of hated former leader Kim Jong Il, who did so much to ensure North Korea remained such a backwater country. Edited March 9, 2013 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 , sadly it appears their civilians have all been brainwashed into thinking that the DPRK are some kind of superpower. They have no idea how badly they would lose. The civilians may have indoctrination forced on them but they are far from brain washed idiots .... Of course i wouldnt expect any "arab spring" type uprising there any tine soon but the population ( of pyongyang at least ) have quite a good inderstanding of whats going on in the world and their place in it , And they even know they lost to Portugal 7-0 in the World Cup in SA 20 years ago the NK's apparently felt obliged to spit and punch at westerner visitors to show loyalty , now you are met with a smile and a wave and they want to engage you in conversation one of them even moved their bags off the seat on the metro so I could sit next to him and have a chat One of the talks at the DMZ the lady referred to the "surrender " document ( we of course know it as the armistice ) but you could tell she didn't believe it and having followed the line then referred to it as the armistice there on in That's because the game was (famously) shown live on TV in North Korea in the wake of their good showing vs Brazil. It was the first time a North Korea game has been shown on TV, was it the last? Now I'm no expert on the matter, but it looks to me like you have cherry picked the one bit of outside information that we all know that North Korea know about the rest of the world. How many more are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) I picked that one as it was the one the Sun ? "Famously" ran their story about and thus an antidote people here would be familiar with ..... In theory media is strictly controlled , But overseas radio is easily accessible and TV as well in some areas , even if it may be illegal to do so (presumably )...The US govt have even carried out research and found access to news is increasing.... It's like Facebook is banned in China but in reality you walk down the streets of Beijing and every bugger with a mobile phone is on it ( ok slight exaggeartion but you get the point ) .....you can't stop the flow of information these days ... indeed talking of which Facebook is now accessible in the DPRK in some of the hotels , I'm sure it won't be long before that expands , legally or otherwise !! But I'm not sure what information / proof you would like me to give tbh ..I mean obviously the people we met were the more informed / maybe even planted as per my Truman show comment. ....but the (April 2012) rocket launch that blew up was public knowledge out there and this had happened the day before we flew in . .....it's a Korean joke that the Americans can't have got to the moon in 69 as clearly Korea would have got there first if it were possible .... Obviously they may not know who won't the Superbowl this year , but would they care ? Edited March 10, 2013 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 So north Korea have today announced they. Launch pre emptive nuclear strikes on Japan and the usa, whilst claiming on working on new military technology capable of striking the us, here is the photo the dprk news agency released showing the new technology It appears the north have finally overstepped the line now, and created a fully functioning calculator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I'm sure even North Korea could do better than using a Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 NASA faked a moon landing with 64k ... I'm sure you don't need a lot more to nuke a country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 So north Korea have today announced they. Launch pre emptive nuclear strikes on Japan and the usa, whilst claiming on working on new military technology capable of striking the us, here is the photo the dprk news agency released showing the new technology It appears the north have finally overstepped the line now, and created a fully functioning calculator sad thing is, I bet he can't even play the piano saw this pic and just thought it was a Chas n Dave knees up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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