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Those thinking our new sponsor is going to be anything other than a morally dubious far eastern company are going to be disappointed I'm afraid! :excl:

 

It's Union Carbide, isn't it?

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Dafabet is the rumour on the street

Is that the Malaysian one?

They have done a deal with Everton though from the looks of things...

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Do Villa have a CSR policy?

These frigging gambling sites should be banned on shirts

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Dafabet are evertons gambling partner.

Don't have a problem with gambling firms as a sponsor. We can't be picky about who gives us money.

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Those thinking our new sponsor is going to be anything other than a morally dubious far eastern company are going to be disappointed I'm afraid! :excl:

If you hadn't specified 'eastern' I'd swear you were talking about...

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Teams launching kits without a sponsor is nothing new. It's been done before and it'll be done again. Curiously though, if the Genting deal hasn't expired by the 15th, I believe we may be contractually obligated to show off the kit with their logo on it, correct? We did that with FX Pro previously didn't we?

 

don't worry I am sure the club is cashed up enough and has enough lawyers to combat this, plus it may be a battle they are prepared to find to see the end of gentings ugly logo

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Just hope it's not cDWS again

Worst sponsor ever

I so thought that was COWS for the longest time as I live outside the UK

I thought it must be a farming company that or the villa players really liked milk

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Do Villa have a CSR policy?

These frigging gambling sites should be banned on shirts

agreed with multiple !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s

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Dafabet are evertons gambling partner.

Don't have a problem with gambling firms as a sponsor. We can't be picky about who gives us money.

 

If that was true, then why did we ever have Acorns as our main sponsor?

 

We can (and should) be picky. This is Aston Villa, not some two-bit club from down the road scrambling for any coin thrown it's way.

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Another eastern gambling outfit then

Or a massoose masuese masseoose massage parlour.

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How much do we even get for a shirt sponsorship? 

 

Don't we get like 70 million pounds from the broadcast deal even if we finish near relegation next season? 

 

What's 8 million pounds for a shirt sponsorship compared to that? I'd much rather have Acorns or Stan's foundation on the shirt and not a bloody gambling company again.

 

They'd want to be offering a fair bit of money to make it worth it.

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Dafabet are evertons gambling partner.

Don't have a problem with gambling firms as a sponsor. We can't be picky about who gives us money.

If that was true, then why did we ever have Acorns as our main sponsor?

We can (and should) be picky. This is Aston Villa, not some two-bit club from down the road scrambling for any coin thrown it's way.

Have you seen the accounts?

I agree with your sentiments about ethical advertising, but then where would we stop... Gambling firms? Pay day loans? Fizzy pop manufacturers? Fast food chains? Clothing manufacturers, and (if you make a stand with the shirt sponsor, surely you have to evaluate the ethical running of the whole club) ties with sportswear manufacturers?

Where should we stop?

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The acorns deal was never done because we didn't find a sponsor, we just couldn't find one to pay what we wanted. As nice as acorns was, if genting had offered us £12 million for to years on the shirt we would have gone with them

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Have you seen the accounts?

I agree with your sentiments about ethical advertising, but then where would we stop... Gambling firms? Pay day loans? Fizzy pop manufacturers? Fast food chains? Clothing manufacturers, and (if you make a stand with the shirt sponsor, surely you have to evaluate the ethical running of the whole club) ties with sportswear manufacturers?

Where should we stop?

 

 

It's a good question. Simplest answer is "wont somebody please think of the children!" (I bet you read that in the priest's wife's voice from The Simpsons ;))

 

That is, ignore companies that deal in areas you would not willingly expose children to - such as gambling, smoking, alcohol and porn based companies.

 

It's not the perfect answer - no answer really is - but it's a decent start.

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Have you seen the accounts?

I agree with your sentiments about ethical advertising, but then where would we stop... Gambling firms? Pay day loans? Fizzy pop manufacturers? Fast food chains? Clothing manufacturers, and (if you make a stand with the shirt sponsor, surely you have to evaluate the ethical running of the whole club) ties with sportswear manufacturers?

Where should we stop?

 

It's a good question. Simplest answer is "wont somebody please think of the children!" (I bet you read that in the priest's wife's voice from The Simpsons ;))

 

That is, ignore companies that deal in areas you would not willingly expose children to - such as gambling, smoking, alcohol and porn based companies.

 

It's not the perfect answer - no answer really is - but it's a decent start.

Safe to assume you don't want 1970's BBC as a sponsor then?

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Dafabet are evertons gambling partner.

Don't have a problem with gambling firms as a sponsor. We can't be picky about who gives us money.

If that was true, then why did we ever have Acorns as our main sponsor?

We can (and should) be picky. This is Aston Villa, not some two-bit club from down the road scrambling for any coin thrown it's way.

Have you seen the accounts?

I agree with your sentiments about ethical advertising, but then where would we stop... Gambling firms? Pay day loans? Fizzy pop manufacturers? Fast food chains? Clothing manufacturers, and (if you make a stand with the shirt sponsor, surely you have to evaluate the ethical running of the whole club) ties with sportswear manufacturers?

Where should we stop?

It's a great point. Many on here would be happy with a beer manufacturer, but not a gambling firm? Why though, as their product both have the possibility to ruin lives if not used responsibly.

Fast food? Fat kids with diabetes

Car companies? Killing the planet

Sportswear? Sweatshops

Technology? More sweatshops

Look hard enough and there's always something to complain about. No one wants a pay day loan company as they are truly awful, but I'm sure the grounds for objection on other brands are due to the 'coolness' of the association, thus reflecting in the standing of the club, as opposed to a moral objection.

Would anyone object to Coca Cola which is sold and marketed to kids, despite the huge sugar content and link to diabetes? Of course not... so why object to a casino marketed purely to adults?

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Don't really understand the issue with gambling sites. Don't really think people turn into addicted gamblers just cos the Villa has a casino/betting site on its shirt. People that are gamblers would've turned it into ahbit without Villa's 'help'.  

 

Going to a casino is a decent night out, and can be enjoyed when done so responsible by responsible adults. certain sections of society do seem always want to blame companies, when sometimes it is the indivdual CONSENTING ADULTS fault for their own issues.

 

Like Stan Balaban said look hard enough and you can find a problem with almost any sponsor.

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How much do we even get for a shirt sponsorship?

Don't we get like 70 million pounds from the broadcast deal even if we finish near relegation next season?

What's 8 million pounds for a shirt sponsorship compared to that? I'd much rather have Acorns or Stan's foundation on the shirt and not a bloody gambling company again.

They'd want to be offering a fair bit of money to make it worth it.

Yes but everbody gets that, to stay ahead of the pack we need to be generating more income than the likes of Norwich so that extra little 8 mil is a necessary evil.

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