flamingsombrero Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=10151322452520847 I think it's fair to say the Dingles weren't best impressed tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Why is piers Morgan being asked about football by the BBC ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I see the loathsome slime that we call our media are whipping up a consensus that it's time for Wenger to go. How sad that someone who's made such a contribution to the game is being harried by such knuckledragging fuckwits, following the herd and bleating the common line. It's a business and yet another trophyless season and possibly finishing outside the top 4 is not what Arsenal are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It's time for Wenger to retire if he can't even shake hands with a manager who beat them fairly and squarely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I see the loathsome slime that we call our media are whipping up a consensus that it's time for Wenger to go. How sad that someone who's made such a contribution to the game is being harried by such knuckledragging fuckwits, following the herd and bleating the common line. It's a business and yet another trophyless season and possibly finishing outside the top 4 is not what Arsenal are looking for. If so, then that's a proper subject for discussion between the club and Wenger. My comments relate to the imbeciles who make up stories about him to fill their vacant pages, then grossly exaggerate his reaction in challenging their downright lies, then start a whispering campaign that he's about to get the push. Also see recent stories about Benitez-Terry bustup, denied by both parties. No wonder only about 20% of people believe what they read in the papers. Made-up shite from brain-dead tosspots, for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If we were to beat them id say his position is untenable. I know moaning fans get a lot of grief for expecting success but if any club should its Arsenal as if i paid that much for tickets id expect top class football weekly and regular trophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The board don't give him enough cash to win the top honours. The squad will be exposed for how under funded it really is if Wenger goes and a new manager comes in trying to stamp their different style on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Every season Arsenal's best players are picked off and Wenger is given a fraction of it to replace the likes of Fabrigas and Van Persie. It is a minor miricle they are still a top half side, let alone on that finishes in the champions league places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 but he also wastes what he gets, Gervinho, Vermaelen, Giroud, Podolski, Andre Santos, Arshavin, Squillaci were all signed for decent fees probably about 70 million between them and havent offered much maybe Vermaelen for 2 seasons but been awful for 18 months or so. Arteta cost 10 million when over the hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 You can't expect anything if you sell your best players and don't replace them with quality, as we Villa fans know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 but he also wastes what he gets, Gervinho, Vermaelen, Giroud, Podolski, Andre Santos, Arshavin, Squillaci were all signed for decent fees probably about 70 million between them and havent offered much maybe Vermaelen for 2 seasons but been awful for 18 months or so. Arteta cost 10 million when over the hill None of those players, and the fees they cost, are anywhere near the same level the likes of Man U Man City and Chelsea are operating at. He spent £10m on and aging Arteta? Man U went out and spent £30m on an ageing Van Persie. They are operating at totally different levels in both transfer fees and wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If arsenal didnt buy them 8 I named and signed 3 absolute quality players instead which they could have attracted 3 seasons ago e.g Vidal, Chiellini and maybe David Villa, the squad quality would have been better, the salaries would probably be lower all around and Im 100% sure players like RVP, Nasri, Clichy wouldnt have wanted to leave the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2013 I also wouldn't class Giroud or Podolski as wastes of money. Both have a lot to offer, Giroud especially (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If arsenal didnt buy them 8 I named and signed 3 absolute quality players instead which they could have attracted 3 seasons ago e.g Vidal, Chiellini and maybe David Villa, the squad quality would have been better, the salaries would probably be lower all around and Im 100% sure players like RVP, Nasri, Clichy wouldnt have wanted to leave the club The Arsenal board have set a wage limit of £80k per week (though Walcott has been given £100k in that contract he just signed). The players you are talking about signing would not have come for that kind of money and players like RVP, Nasri etc would still have all taken off to get £150k pw at Man City. Arsenal are not able to compete finacially. Even if you choose to look back with perfect hindsight and pick new transfers Wenger should have made they would still be trailing behind the bigger spenders (even Tottenham are included in that as they have massively outspend Arsenal in recent years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) I don't understand why the Arsenal board are so tight with money. They should be able to at least compete with Spurs. And when you consider they have been in the champions league every season and qualifying past the group, where is all that income going?? Edited February 20, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Why are Bayern getting rid of their manager? He seems to be doing a great job. I think he's just retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 he has looked decent but not a top player and not an Arsenal quality. think the problem for him is Michu cost 10million less and got probably double the goals, Ive seen some Arsenal fans moan about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hmmm, I think it's a bit of a forced retirement, at least if Rafa Honigstein is to be believed (and there's no reason why he shouldn't be) He's being linked with the Schalke job IIRC, which if he takes it owuldn't really make sense if he was retiring. Although if he happened to win the CL this season you'd think he'd go out on a high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't understand why the Arsenal board are so tight with money. They should be able to at least compete with Spurs. And when you consider they have been in the champions league every season and qualifying past the group, where is all that income going?? Some of the money goes to paying off the stadium debt some of it goes to pay a dividend to all the owners. Not very much gets reinvested back into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm sure somethign came out not so long ago that said they had more cash in the bank thank any other team in the world though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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