limpid Posted November 18, 2014 Administrator Share Posted November 18, 2014 The debian gnome packages are just an apt-get away. Worst case, you'd need to use a ppa. Choice is good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 18, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2014 The debian gnome packages are just an apt-get away. Worst case, you'd need to use a ppa. Choice is good. Choice is good, too much choice, or fragmentation is often bad (for a lot of people) I like the version that MMV posted below. It seems to retain what has become the best kind of layout of presenting folders and stuff easily and simply to people. It doesn't matter what OS people use, to me at least that version just works. It's easy to follow, familiar and clean and neat and simple and intuitive. So it's good that it's been done, but it makes me wonder why the unity approach was really necessary. It's not really an improvement. It's like different for the sake of it. Same as the windows 8 abomination was, and to an extent the same way apple sometimes change things without making them easier for the user. Part of the ease is familiarity, and just already knowing. This was MMV's post: The reviews of 14.10 have been less than enthusiastic but the MATE version of 14.04, seems have got this guy excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 19, 2014 Administrator Share Posted November 19, 2014 I might have missed something, but Gnome hasn't fragmented has it?. Canonical changed their default window manager in favour of something which works better on a wider variety of devices including touch This means that there are probably fewer developers working on Gnome (although I don't know this for a fact). it doesn't mean anything has fragmented. If you are looking for simple interfaces, then KDE down't have "double click" on things. Double click has to be the least intuitive interaction, which is why so many double click when they should single click. Annoyingly, GTK based apps still need double click under KDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 19, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 19, 2014 I endorse MATE, though I use it largely because it doesn't get in the way of sawfish (plus Esetroot to set the root window). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 24, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 24, 2014 stuck that 14.04 MATE one on a computer yesterday and it's good. Nice and clean. Really quick. Definitely prefer it to bog standard tazered tapir or whatever it was called, with the funny side dock thingy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 24, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 24, 2014 I might have missed something, but Gnome hasn't fragmented has it?. ...No I meant this bit, Simon Choice is good, too much choice, or fragmentation is often bad (for a lot of people) ...It seems to retain what has become the best kind of layout of presenting folders and stuff easily and simply to people. It doesn't matter what OS people use, to me at least that version just works. It's easy to follow, familiar and clean and neat and simple and intuitive. So it's good that it's been done, but it makes me wonder why the unity approach was really necessary. It's not really an improvement. It's like different for the sake of it. Same as the windows 8 abomination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 24, 2014 Administrator Share Posted November 24, 2014 I don't think that describes a fragmentation either. Unity was designed to work on all sizes of interface. Like Windows 8 but without needing the "modes". You might feel that wasn't necessary, but lack of necessity (in your opinion) doesn't make this a fragmentation; it's just a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14K_away Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 why does the guy keep saying matay... like satay or pate ? surley its MATE as in good on yer ... ? I had to stop watching the vid it was making me nauseous listing to `matay` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 25, 2014 Administrator Share Posted November 25, 2014 why does the guy keep saying matay... like satay or pate ? surley its MATE as in good on yer ... ? I had to stop watching the vid it was making me nauseous listing to `matay` How do you pronounce linux, ubuntu and debian? None of them are how you might expect.... li-nucks, oo-bun-too, deb-ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 why does the guy keep saying matay... like satay or pate ? surley its MATE as in good on yer ... ? I had to stop watching the vid it was making me nauseous listing to `matay` How do you pronounce linux, ubuntu and debian? None of them are how you might expect.... li-nucks, oo-bun-too, deb-ian Trivia n.2 as you well know is that Debian is named after original founder Ian Murdock and his girlfriend Debra Lynn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 25, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2014 http://mate-desktop.org/ The name "MATE", pronounced Ma-Tay, comes from yerba maté, a species of holly native to subtropical South America. Its leaves contain caffeine and are used to make infusions and a beverage called mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14K_away Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 http://mate-desktop.org/ The name "MATE", pronounced Ma-Tay, comes from yerba maté, a species of holly native to subtropical South America. Its leaves contain caffeine and are used to make infusions and a beverage called mate. Oh well if thats how they say its pronounced then I can't argue, but so used to saying good on yer, it hurts (me) to say ma-tay , like I order a flat white coffee, can't be bothered with a tai-chi frappacino etc. @limpid , still use linux and li(y)-nux on a daily basis since I can bever remember which was the right way, heard Torvalds saying it once but cant remember which way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 26, 2014 Administrator Share Posted November 26, 2014 How do you deal with words like "Reading" which have two perfectly correct pronunciations? li-nucks, not lye-nucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14K_away Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 easy, they are 2 different words and both English, like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2016 Quote I’m sorry I have to come with bad news. We were exposed to an intrusion today. It was brief and it shouldn’t impact many people, but if it impacts you, it’s very important you read the information below. What happened? Hackers made a modified Linux Mint ISO, with a backdoor in it, and managed to hack our website to point to it. Does this affect you? As far as we know, the only compromised edition was Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon edition. If you downloaded another release or another edition, this does not affect you. If you downloaded via torrents or via a direct HTTP link, this doesn’t affect you either. Finally, the situation happened today, so it should only impact people who downloaded this edition on February 20th. Minty hackenings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Their forum was also compromised, but obviously nobody is daft enough to reuse passwords across different websites, these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted February 22, 2016 Administrator Share Posted February 22, 2016 Mint is not ubuntu, please don't take the thread off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 minute ago, limpid said: Mint is not ubuntu, please don't take the thread off topic It's based on Ubuntu - it uses Ubuntu as a base, nicht war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted February 22, 2016 Administrator Share Posted February 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, blandy said: It's based on Ubuntu - it uses Ubuntu as a base, nicht war? Only in the same way ubuntu is based on Debian - which would also be off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2016 On 18/11/2014 at 16:51, limpid said: The debian gnome packages are just an apt-get away. Worst case, you'd need to use a ppa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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