PieFacE Posted December 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) 21 hours ago, villarocker said: Apparently, Lambert had to beg to buy Benteke and the way he convinced Lerner to part with £7m was by suggesting that Benteke would be worth treble that when we sell him. Or, was it the "he is brilliant" comment that you struggled with? I think that Benteke is brilliant when fit and playing the right way. No, it's the part where he says Lerner wants to make money and wants to sell assets. Lerner makes no money, and although this is pure speculation (much like the comment about Lambert begging Lerner to buy Benteke), I doubt he really wants to sell the best players at the club. From what I've seen of the past few years, is that the best players want to leave. Edited December 17, 2015 by PieFacE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 16 minutes ago, ender4 said: Is Randy entertaining Remi or are they having a serious discussion about Villa and transfer targets etc? It doesn't really matter, it should be happening in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 9 minutes ago, ender4 said: Is Randy entertaining Remi or are they having a serious discussion about Villa and transfer targets etc? I didnt want to use the sentence "RL invited RG for talks" I dont know who initiated the "discussions" i think its yet another bad decision by RL to stay in the US instead of coming to RG that can have a negative effect on our onfield results/performances Whatever inspires him when he makes his decisions it only brings us closer to the inevitable 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Can't paste or link this properly - & am struggling to delete it. Why did I start this? Edited December 17, 2015 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Be prepared for disputations on the line 'Tim Sherwood did not want most of the arrivals'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 hours ago, Grasshopper said: At the most critical point of his "Custodianship", days before the most important series of matches, when Remi needs as much time & concentration preparing the players RL entertains him in the USA. i dont know how taxing flights to & from the US are but hardly good prep for RG for the most important period of our PL history. i understand RL fearing a visit to VP/BMH, but surely he could have flown to London or Paris to meet RG & TF. clowns are funny and good for kids birthday parties Randy Lerner is just the most stupid incompetent football club owner ever Strange post in that case then. I imagine he went straight after the game on Sunday on Randy's private jet which was sent for him (massive assumptions). In reality, nobody knows the ins and outs of the meeting; when he went; how he got there; what the players were doing on that day; it's a flimsy criticism. Randy maybe should have come here, yes, but that's me agreeing based on knowing nothing about how it was all organised and coordinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 hours ago, OneNightInRotterdam said: I feel that Januaury will define Lerners Era, his investment will make or break us. And will decide our future. Lets hope he puts his money where his mouth is. I think the next 9 days will define Lerners Era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 54 minutes ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: Strange post in that case then. I imagine he went straight after the game on Sunday on Randy's private jet which was sent for him (massive assumptions). In reality, nobody knows the ins and outs of the meeting; when he went; how he got there; what the players were doing on that day; it's a flimsy criticism. Randy maybe should have come here, yes, but that's me agreeing based on knowing nothing about how it was all organised and coordinated. I think it's a fair criticism. He'll have missed at least two days of training, spent near 20 hours travelling and got some associated jet lag, all for a meeting that could probably have been done online. Lerner wouldn't be the first rich business leader with a fetish for unnecessary face-to-face meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 hours ago, Grasshopper said: I didnt want to use the sentence "RL invited RG for talks" I dont know who initiated the "discussions" i think its yet another bad decision by RL to stay in the US instead of coming to RG that can have a negative effect on our onfield results/performances Whatever inspires him when he makes his decisions it only brings us closer to the inevitable I'm amazed he still gets people defending him to be honest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 3 hours ago, OneNightInRotterdam said: Lets hope he puts his money where his mouth is. we spent as much money in the summer that the whole Leicester squad equates to. I would suggest the tomatoes get thrown at him for his decision of WHO spends that money and on whom,as opposed to the amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) 19 hours ago, Richard said: I'm amazed he still gets people defending him to be honest Its rarely in life that any individual has no redeeming features whatsoever. It is also rarely in football life that an owner/Chairman can be **** at every aspect of a football club.There are other contributing factors/people. If a balanced view was put forward, maybe he would be defended less.....Doug Ellis wasn't bad at everything and i was a participant in marches to get rid of him. I happen to think RL has employed people who have spent his money unwisely,that for me is his biggest crime, granted that is his fault/responsibility, but it then creates a reluctance to spend more money.......While that is his fault it does not negate from those people carrying some responsibility too. you cannot ( irrespective of the perpertrator) keep spending good money to chase bad money. I happen to think he is more incompetent than malicious......Its like players being not good enough, hard to criticise that, but easy to criticise not trying. I think if you check carefully no one is saying Lerner is blameless, just that others who should know better have helped him be **** along the way. Edited December 18, 2015 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 It strikes me that due to so many players been bought that have contributed such little value to our cause.....It is no wonder that managers have to sell the idea of a prospective purchase by saying the "sell on fee will be much more" when we come to do it. Crikey, we should be signing players because of the players ability value.....not with one eye on the exit door. The lunitics really have taken over the asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: I think it's a fair criticism. He'll have missed at least two days of training, spent near 20 hours travelling and got some associated jet lag, all for a meeting that could probably have been done online. Lerner wouldn't be the first rich business leader with a fetish for unnecessary face-to-face meetings. But it's not because nobody knows the ins and outs. How was it coordinated and structured? We just don't know. People are making assumptions, so here's some: the evening after the Arsenal game he gets a private jet overnight, has dinner and then sleeps on a flat bed onboard the aircraft until he arrives in the US/New York. He is taken to freshen up and then have his meeting with RL. He's then flown back and is taken straight to BH on his arrival in England. He could have kept his body clock running on GMT the whole time and only been away for a day in which the players didn't train anyway. It's all wild guesswork. Criticism is one thing, and there's enough to criticise, but creating stuff out of the unknown is pointless. Edited December 17, 2015 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 hour ago, Richard said: I'm amazed he still gets people defending him to be honest Personally I've been saying there's enough to criticise him for, but making things up (e.g. the debt stuff which has now been perfectly explained by Blandy) or making massive assumptions about business trips is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 6 minutes ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: But it's not because nobody knows the ins and outs. How was it coordinated and structured? We just don't know. People are making assumptions, so here's some: the evening after the Arsenal game he gets a private jet overnight, has dinner and then sleeps on a flat bed onboard the aircraft until he arrives in the US/New York. He is taken to freshen up and then have his meeting with RL. He's then flown back and is taken straight to BH on his arrival in England. He could have kept his body clock running on GMT the whole time. It's all wild guesswork. Criticism is one thing, and there's enough to criticise, but creating stuff out of the unknown is pointless. Fair enough. We'll have to 'agree to disagree'. I can't think of any reason to take the manager away from the players in the week before the match that is the genuine last chance saloon for PL survival. We're clearly not going to persuade each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benireduk Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11706/10102129/crystal-palace-deal-agreed-by-american-businessmen Quote Josh Harris and David Blitzer pictured in 2013 when they were annouced as co-owners of the New Jersey Devils Sky Sports News HQ understands that a group of American businessmen, led by Josh Harris and David Blitzer, have agreed a £100m deal to buy a controlling stake in Crystal Palace. The deal, finally signed off in the United States on Wednesday night, sees 70 per cent of Palace shares changing hands - with chairman Steve Parish retaining an equal shareholding of 18 per cent alongside Harris and Blitzer. The Americans, who own the NBA's Philadelphia 76ers and the NHL's New Jersey Devils, will invest a further £50m on expanding and improving Selhurst Park and supplementing the playing squad. Come on Randy, there's people out there. Get us sold please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Pretty sure every London based club up for sale will be bought long before we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Well, even if he can't get a buyer. why not a further investor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 hour ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: But it's not because nobody knows the ins and outs. How was it coordinated and structured? We just don't know. People are making assumptions, so here's some: the evening after the Arsenal game he gets a private jet overnight, has dinner and then sleeps on a flat bed onboard the aircraft until he arrives in the US/New York. He is taken to freshen up and then have his meeting with RL. He's then flown back and is taken straight to BH on his arrival in England. He could have kept his body clock running on GMT the whole time and only been away for a day in which the players didn't train anyway. It's all wild guesswork. Criticism is one thing, and there's enough to criticise, but creating stuff out of the unknown is pointless. Maybe, RL is having second thoughts about the men in grey suits buying players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 So jealous of so many other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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