snowychap Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Has been a really fierce game. Wales have been really excellent and I thought England's defence up until the two tries had been really good. Not sure that Walsh has been that bad. p.s. I could see the scoreline being 40+ points for Wales, too. Edited March 16, 2013 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 This has by far been the most embarrassing England performance in years. Utter disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 This has by far been the most embarrassing England performance in years. Utter disgrace. Really? What game have you been watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 This has by far been the most embarrassing England performance in years. Utter disgrace. Really? What game have you been watching? They are tackling like it's a game of tag Rugby, the Welsh just walk their way through. Of course it doesn't help that Walsh is giving away penalties based on the fact some players are wearing White shirts. Never should this England team have been humiliated by that Welsh team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 England needed this IMO. Hugely embarrassing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 England were absolutely, positively, well & truly smashed off the **** park. Brilliant from Wales. Fair bloody play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Villa win, Wales win. Happy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Why on earth is this England performance 'embarrassing'? It's particularly ungracious for people to talk about this result in that way especially after the ferocity of the first 50 minutes or so. To call it 'an utter disgrace' is, frankly, a disgrace in itself. Wales were superb (and who would have thought them capable of that after getting hammered in the first half by Ireland). England have a lot to learn and let's hope they learn some of the lessons that Wales taught them today. Looking forward to the Lions tour even more after today. Edited March 16, 2013 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Were I to have a wager then I'd say Jiffy is unlikely to be sober before sometime on Tuesday. Shit loads of sly grins from him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Ah well, it's only rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Good on Scotland for saving Ireland the embarrassment of the wooden spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 France coming last is little comfort but I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Good on Scotland for saving Ireland the embarrassment of the wooden spoon. Especially as they'd normally save other teams' embarrassment by collecting it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted March 16, 2013 Why on earth is this England performance 'embarrassing'? It's particularly ungracious for people to talk about this result in that way especially after the ferocity of the first 50 minutes or so. To call it 'an utter disgrace' is, frankly, a disgrace in itself. Wales were superb (and who would have thought them capable of that after getting hammered in the first half by Ireland). England have a lot to learn and let's hope they learn some of the lessons that Wales taught them today. Looking forward to the Lions tour even more after today. There as only one "embarrassing" aspect of the England game today. Their complete inadequacy in the scrum, this is what lost them the game. They had other faults too but they were minor in comparison (Failure to adapt to new rules and a bit of naivety under pressure) But they have the makings of a good side, though right now I feel they will never be a great side. They are methodical and effective but need a couple of "star" players I've also seen a few complaints about the ref from England fans, he was just about perfect, hard to find a wrong decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 There as only one "embarrassing" aspect of the England game today. Their complete inadequacy in the scrum, this is what lost them the game.I think that you're right in singling out the scrum (specifically the front row though I'm not sure they were helped by Youngs dicking around with the put in).Not sure that it lost them the game but it certainly put them on the back foot and that's never going to help.But they have the makings of a good side, though right now I feel they will never be a great side. They are methodical and effective but need a couple of "star" playersI think that probably sums them up for me but I do have some hope that Lancaster is working toward a plan that has them learning towards being a really good side - whether that's enough without a couple of top players is debatable (and that also depends on what some of the - especially younger - players become).I've also seen a few complaints about the ref from England fans, he was just about perfect, hard to find a wrong decisionI thought he was mostly okay until he seemed to succumb to the 'failing scrum is obviously a scrum to be penalized' mentality. Perhaps most or all of those decisions were right but it did appear that one or two were because he got the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Wales always massively up there performance vs England.They did it last year too if they played like that everytime they'd be world champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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