AvfcTheObsession Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 4 wins 2 draws 6 defeats Would do it I think. Puts a lot of pressure on us to win the Fulham, Sunderland and QPR home games as I don't see us picking up more than 1 away win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONCABA Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 I have been having a look at our remaining games. Trying to be objective and not letting my heart rule my head, I have come up with the following possible results: Everton - draw West Ham - Villa win Arsenal - Villa loss Man City - Villa loss Reading - Villa win QPR - Villa win Liverpool - draw Stoke - Villa loss Fulham - Villa win Man Utd - Villa loss Sunderland - draw Norwich - Villa loss Chelsea - Villa loss Wigan - Villa loss This would leave us finishing our league campaign on 35 points. Is that enough? C'mon Villa prove me wrong FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 4 wins 2 draws 6 defeats Would do it I think. Puts a lot of pressure on us to win the Fulham, Sunderland and QPR home games as I don't see us picking up more than 1 away win. I reckon we are more than capable of achieving the 6 defeats but I have reservations about the 4 wins and 2 draws! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 35 points will probably be enough but on current form I don't think we'll get them! If you had started this forecast a couple of weeks ago would you have written in home defeats to Southampton and Newcastle? I doubt it! This team is sinking to lows even we find it hard to imagine. Of the games left I think you can write off Everton, Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd, and Chelsea. (That's not to say we may not sneak one or two points here and there but it would be wrong to count on anything from them) So we need 15 points from the remaining 8: 5 wins or 4 wins and 3 draws. Maybe Sylla and Dawkins will stabilise things, inspire their new colleagues to a step change in performance and drive us forward to an improvement of nearly 30 percent in our performance so far this season. We can but hope... I just saw a pig fly past the window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 4 wins 2 draws 6 defeats Would do it I think. Puts a lot of pressure on us to win the Fulham, Sunderland and QPR home games as I don't see us picking up more than 1 away win. I reckon we are more than capable of achieving the 6 defeats but I have reservations about the 4 wins and 2 draws! Haha yes, well it's only 5 defeats left now I think we are a pretty good chance of getting it down to 4 after next Monday's match too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The way its going, 35 points will enough, maybe even 34 points. Currently 24 points from 27 games is safe for Wigan, thats 33.8 points at the end of the season to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 i think 3 wins and 3 draws should be enough to stay up and they are positive. Im more positive after saturday as we didnt take a pummeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 25, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2013 I have been having a look at our remaining games. Trying to be objective and not letting my heart rule my head, I have come up with the following possible results: Everton - draw West Ham - Villa win Arsenal - Villa loss Man City - Villa loss Reading - Villa win QPR - Villa win Liverpool - draw Stoke - Villa loss Fulham - Villa win Man Utd - Villa loss Sunderland - draw Norwich - Villa loss Chelsea - Villa loss Wigan - Villa loss This would leave us finishing our league campaign on 35 points. Is that enough? So far so good with this prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 4 wins 2 draws 6 defeats Would do it I think. Puts a lot of pressure on us to win the Fulham, Sunderland and QPR home games as I don't see us picking up more than 1 away win. I reckon we are more than capable of achieving the 6 defeats but I have reservations about the 4 wins and 2 draws! Haha yes, well it's only 5 defeats left now I think we are a pretty good chance of getting it down to 4 after next Monday's match too! If we do lose next Monday, as most people expect, that would leave us needing: 4 wins 2 draws 4 defeats To get to the point mark of 38, which kept us up last season. That's mid-table form, I'm not sure we're good enough to go on that run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Got a feeling that by the time the Fulham game has ended we will know whether we are going down or not. Reading, QPR, Stoke & Fulham - those games are likely to seal our fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 4 wins 2 draws 6 defeats Would do it I think. Puts a lot of pressure on us to win the Fulham, Sunderland and QPR home games as I don't see us picking up more than 1 away win. I reckon we are more than capable of achieving the 6 defeats but I have reservations about the 4 wins and 2 draws! Haha yes, well it's only 5 defeats left now I think we are a pretty good chance of getting it down to 4 after next Monday's match too! If we do lose next Monday, as most people expect, that would leave us needing: 4 wins 2 draws 4 defeats To get to the point mark of 38, which kept us up last season. That's mid-table form, I'm not sure we're good enough to go on that run. No, we don't need any defeats. Nobody NEEDS defeats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 4 wins 2 draws 6 defeats Would do it I think. Puts a lot of pressure on us to win the Fulham, Sunderland and QPR home games as I don't see us picking up more than 1 away win. I reckon we are more than capable of achieving the 6 defeats but I have reservations about the 4 wins and 2 draws! Haha yes, well it's only 5 defeats left now I think we are a pretty good chance of getting it down to 4 after next Monday's match too! If we do lose next Monday, as most people expect, that would leave us needing: 4 wins 2 draws 4 defeats To get to the point mark of 38, which kept us up last season. That's mid-table form, I'm not sure we're good enough to go on that run. No, we don't need any defeats. Nobody NEEDS defeats! OK we NEED the 4 wins and 2 draws, leaving us with 4 games we could afford defeats in, and probably still stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMushroom Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 4 wins 2 draws 6 defeats Would do it I think. Puts a lot of pressure on us to win the Fulham, Sunderland and QPR home games as I don't see us picking up more than 1 away win. I reckon we are more than capable of achieving the 6 defeats but I have reservations about the 4 wins and 2 draws! Haha yes, well it's only 5 defeats left now I think we are a pretty good chance of getting it down to 4 after next Monday's match too! If we do lose next Monday, as most people expect, that would leave us needing: 4 wins 2 draws 4 defeats Needing a defeat is not the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 ...I think 32 points will be enough for survival and I think we will get more than that. 32 points? No chance it will be that low. 36/37 is more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I don't think 35 points will be enough Minimum 37/38 if we're lucky though i fear it will be more like 40/41 as Wigan are improving.. Doesn't matter about Reading & QPR really as we have to better the best of those 3 being Wigan. If one of the others gets dragged in then great but i still think it will be a surprisingly high points tally to stay up this season by the end of it all. Do i think we will do it? ....... Not for a second. We still lose even when we apparently play well so that says all that needs to be said for me. Arsenal played poorly on the back of 2 defeats, one of them against a Championship team plus we were, or at least should have been, much fresher than them. At the same time we played really well according to Lambert, were on the back of a win & the fresher team having had 2 weeks to prepare for the game.......But despite all this we still lost!.. Ok Arsenal are still a decent enough side but even so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The more I look at it, the more I fear it. We have to win certain matches, no matter what. We can afford a loss against the top teams but thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Just looked at the remaining fixtures for all those clubs who are still "at risk" to varying extents, apart from West Ham & Sunderland & i have this Newcastle......46pts Southampton 45 pts Norwich.........44 pts Wigan...........37 pts Villa...............35 pts QPR..............33 pts Reading........30 pts Thats with us losing against Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U... Drawing with QPR, Reading, Stoke, Norwich & Wigan, .. & Winning against Fulham & Sunderland. Lose against QPR & i fear for us Win against Wigan & we have a chance But must not lose against QPR, Reading or Wigan & really we need to win at least 2 of those Ok just looked at the Sunderland & West Ham fixtures too & they could indeed still get dragged in but even on a pretty poor run i still have West Ham finishing on about 40 pts & Sunderland around 38/39 Edited February 25, 2013 by danceoftheshamen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 ...I think 32 points will be enough for survival and I think we will get more than that. 32 points? No chance it will be that low. 36/37 is more realistic. It is possible. I think the average safe point mark over the last 10 years is 34 (if i am remembering correctly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 data for last 9 years: To be safe required 34, 34, 35, 38, 36, 35, 31, 40, 37. Average = 35.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I'm optimistic. I know a lot of people will say otherwise, but they have been playing better ever since the 2nd half of Newcastle. I can see wins against QPR, Reading, Sunderland, and maybe Wigan. A couple draws in the mix would really help. I think we should know after March where it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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