VillaCas Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 We've already been relegated. Despite being in the relegation zone by goal difference and the teams around us being as bad as us this season so far, or we'd be adrift on our own, apparently there is no chance at all that we'll get one point more than those teams in the remaining games. I hope the team have more bottle and fight than some of the supporters. But thats not the whole story - Apart from reading we have been beaten quite easily buy all those around us. Wigan, Newcastle, southampton all at home within the last few weeks. Theres a good chance we will be bottom by the end of Feb. The bookies also make us joint favourites to go down. We have 14 games left - and probably need to win 6 - thats some upturn in form. It can be done of course - but I trust you will agree it is unlikely. No I don't agree it's unlikely that we will stay up - I think its very achievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Our current wages may be higher than some teams above us but the players we are aiming to use over the coming seasons (and even this season) are a lot less than the teams above and below us. Guzan, Lowton, Baker, Clark, Bennett, Al Ahmadi, Sylla, Weimann, Bannan, Albrighton, Bowery, Westwood and others will be on a lot less than the players that will be leaving this club at the end of the season. Our average wage was overly high, but we have swung too rapidly in the other direction and now can't compete with any Premier League teams on wages. I would be surprised if any of our newer signings (perhaps other than Vlaar) were on over £20/25k a week. Stupid money yes, but very cheap in Premier League terms. But I agree, Money doesn't equate to success (in either direction) but there is certainly a strong correlation and we can't afford to compete at the moment. How else can we not compete with the "likes of Newcastle and Stoke"? Bennett, Westwood and Lowton on less than £10k a week, KEA less than £20k, Vlaar and Benteke £25k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 then you have the youngsters who lets say over the course of a year are on an average of 20k per week - these are all playing and have signed contracts in the last year, or have just been bought in, so i don't think its too far out, from what i understand: clark lowton westwood weimann herd bannan bennett bowery baker sylla dawkins gardner albrighton lichaj stevens None of these are on anything close to £20k a week - the vast majority are not earning £10k a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Do you have access to their pay slips then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 is makoun still at rennes? i notice he is in our squad list on the OS... Yes, but Pongo Waring is still on the squad list on the OS. They're just a bit slow at updating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 yeah, he's there till the end of the season, they have an option to buy apparently. He will still have no work permit, have turned 30 and have one year left on his contract this summer so the option cant be for much!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 'kin hell. We'd do well to give him away to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 well and truly robbed on the makoun deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 So Hairy Hands is now saying that any new players will be limited to £20k pw - thats not even a cull of the high earners - its butchery ! - no way we can sustain a prem club on those figures. We are watching championship players in a big staduim - if this is true its WHEN and not IF we are relegated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 So Hairy Hands is now saying that any new players will be limited to £20k pw - thats not even a cull of the high earners - its butchery ! - no way we can sustain a prem club on those figures. We are watching championship players in a big staduim - if this is true its WHEN and not IF we are relegated.... Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 So Hairy Hands is now saying that any new players will be limited to £20k pw - thats not even a cull of the high earners - its butchery ! - no way we can sustain a prem club on those figures. We are watching championship players in a big staduim - if this is true its WHEN and not IF we are relegated.... If we stay up this season we will have to look at that again in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 So Hairy Hands is now saying that any new players will be limited to £20k pw - thats not even a cull of the high earners - its butchery ! - no way we can sustain a prem club on those figures. We are watching championship players in a big staduim - if this is true its WHEN and not IF we are relegated.... If we stay up this season we will have to look at that again in the summer. We have been saying this for a few years, the transition is endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Meanwhile on Planet Hutton..... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfers-alan-hutton-3019871 Alan Hutton is holding up Aston Villa's clear-out after snubbing Huddersfield. Villa boss Paul Lambert has not played Hutton since taking charge in June 2012. The Scot loaned his compatriot to Nottingham Forest and Real Mallorca last season. Now Championship Huddersfield want Hutton, 29, who earns £30,000-a-week. But the right-back has turned them down after being unhappy with the terms of Villa's pay-off. Hutton joined from Spurs in August 2011 on a four-year contract. Villa are close to selling Stephen Ireland to Stoke permanently but still want rid of Shay Given, Darren Bent and Nathan Delfouneso. Edited January 13, 2014 by theboyangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ......perhaps they should be a bit more skilful in their recruitment process. prevention is always much better than cure. some of the managers purchases should be referred to the trades description act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So Hairy Hands is now saying that any new players will be limited to £20k pw - thats not even a cull of the high earners - its butchery ! - no way we can sustain a prem club on those figures. We are watching championship players in a big staduim - if this is true its WHEN and not IF we are relegated.... You thought we'd be relegated last season too (as per the op) - so you've not exactly got form in the accurate guessing stakes. I like how you're basing your assumptions on the say-so of one forummer that may or may not have accurate info too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postdeath Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ireland has completed his move to Stoke: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3620424,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 shocked if we got a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_ Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 shocked if we got a fee. The near-2million saved on wages is a good enough "fee" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Our wage bill must be one of the lowest in the premier league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_ Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Our wage bill must be one of the lowest in the premier league now. Probably, however, we still have Given, Bent, Delph, Agbonlahor & N'Zogbia on high wages.... and Hutton with his not as high but still reasonably high 30k a week. Plus whatever Delfounso on as he keeps getting mentioned so may be on a high wage too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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