Manager Paul Lambert

[VillaCas]

The main problem (of many) this season is that Paul Lambert has completely wasted a good sum of money on shite like Bennett, Lowton, Vlaar, KEA and Westwood.

 

I don't agree that they're all shite, but out of interest which 5 players would you have bought in for a combined total of £70k a week?

[VillaCas]

Ba is on close to 90k? Yeah somehow I doubt that.

 

More games than Warnock and Hutton combined - please concentrate

 

 

Or are you deliberately misunderstanding for comic effect

Edited February 3, 2013 by VillaCas

[foreveryoung]

You all know Faulker (who I despise by the way) has a big input into who we sign money available etc. Him and his people, who obviously know **** all about football, are Lerners advisors. I believe if Faulkner said we are desperate for money, it would be available. He has a big say in who we sign! It was his decision to bring in McLeish remember. This bloke gets away with murder. I mean what do you think he does at our club???

[Ryan.]

I'd love to know what Lambert was told when he took the job, surely he wouldn't have left a cushy job at Norwich to carry out such brutal cuts here, If he did he has bigger balls than we're giving him credit for..

 

Sure he has made mistakes, as we all do, but he's trying to pull the cart whilst randy sold the horses!!

[VILLAMARV]

You all know Faulker (who I despise by the way) has a big input into who we sign money available etc. Him and his people, who obviously know **** all about football, are Lerners advisors. I believe if Faulkner said we are desperate for money, it would be available. He has a big say in who we sign! It was his decision to bring in McLeish remember. This bloke gets away with murder. I mean what do you think he does at our club???

 

he sits around lighting cigars off of burning bundles of £50's doesnt he?

[Woodytom]

The main problem (of many) this season is that Paul Lambert has completely wasted a good sum of money on shite like Bennett, Lowton, Vlaar, KEA and Westwood.

 

I don't agree that they're all shite, but out of interest which 5 players would you have bought in for a combined total of £70k a week?

 

 

I have no idea. Its not my responsibility. Its Paul Lamberts. It gets paid an awful lot of money and so far he hasnt delivered. (Im not necessarily a PL out person).

 

I probably wouldnt have bought 5 players. I think we just needed a spine. 23m on Benteke, a decent mid and a decent cb seems like a better approach atm. The squad would have been smaller but so far bar Lowton, the other 4 have offered zero. Absolutely zero. 

 

The fact of the matter is that only 1 out of 7 Lambert signings have worked. The rest have been awful - theres no denying it. Thats why we are 19th. Lucky that 1/7 has come off becuase god knows where we would be without Benteke.

[ArteSuave]

 

so far bar Lowton, the other 4 have offered zero. Absolutely zero. 

 

The fact of the matter is that only 1 out of 7 Lambert signings have worked. The rest have been awful - theres no denying it.

 

 

Just to confirm, you are of the opinion that Ashley Westwood has been "awful" and offered "absolutely zero"?

 

 I'm not sure we're watching the same kid.

[Big_John_10]

He had to bring in 1/3 of a squad with 20 million for christ sake

Did he?

We needed lots of improvements on last year but it he was given a limited budget I think it was a bit of a stupid decision to buy lots of players not good enough instead of 2 or 3 better signings.

He didn't spend what he had wisely but that's not my main issue with him. His tactics, his substitutions and his abysmal coaching is playing a big part in keeping us down the bottom of the league.

[Woodytom]

so far bar Lowton, the other 4 have offered zero. Absolutely zero. 

 

The fact of the matter is that only 1 out of 7 Lambert signings have worked. The rest have been awful - theres no denying it.

 

 

Just to confirm, you are of the opinion that Ashley Westwood has been "awful" and offered "absolutely zero"?

 

 I'm not sure we're watching the same kid.

 

 

Absolutely confirmed!! That midfield has been dominated in almost every game this season. How can they possibly have been any good?

 

Were 19th in the league. Cant win for toffee. Getting outplayed by teams in lower divisions. Stop kidding yourself anybodys any good. 

 

Whats your evidence that hes decent? He looks comfortable on the ball? 

[Big_John_10]

Same old crap argument

Yeah, your constant defence of him as been varied and offered plenty of evidence to support it.

[Tomaszk]

Lambert is the man. I'm with him.

 

When Mourinho wants to come here, give me a shout and I'll reconsider.

 

You can take your Curbishley's, Pulis', Adkins' and shove them.

[ArteSuave]

Were 19th in the league. Cant win for toffee. Getting outplayed by teams in lower divisions. Stop kidding yourself anybodys any good. 

 

Whats your evidence that hes decent? He looks comfortable on the ball? 

 

I thought his full debut vs Sunderland was very impressive and he looks fairly good any time he's not lumped with 2 players' work (when Bannan is playing).

 

Getting outplayed by Bradford in a competition Westwood was cuptied for is a bit of a stretch to blame on him IMO.

 

Being 19th doesn't mean that none of our players are "any good", QPR are 20th and they've got good players coming out their arsehole.

Edited February 3, 2013 by ArteSuave

[VillaCas]

Were 19th in the league. Cant win for toffee. Getting outplayed by teams in lower divisions. Stop kidding yourself anybodys any good. 

 

Whats your evidence that hes decent? He looks comfortable on the ball? 

 

I thought his full debut vs Sunderland was very impressive and he looks fairly good any time he's not lumped with 2 players' work (when Bannan is playing).

 

Getting outplayed by Bradford in a competition Westwood was cuptied for is a bit of a stretch to blame on him IMO.

 

Being 19th doesn't mean that none of our players are "any good", QPR are 20th and they've got good players coming out their arsehole.

 

The players Lambert has bought have been far better than those he inherited. Vlaar, Benteke, Guzan, Lowton and Westwood have all been good VFM.  I'm still prepared to give KEA and Bennett time to deliver - it can take time to adjust. Petrov's first season was hardly outstanding I seem to remember

 

The hatchet squad are already sharpening their axes for Sylla - 15 mins game time and he is already "gash" apparently

 

Fellani is one of the best 5 players in the Prem and will score headers against plenty of teams better than us

 

A really encouraging performance which bodes well for the challenge ahead - we need to carry that great attacking form into the WHU game

[Super Jonno]

He had to bring in 1/3 of a squad with 20 million for christ sake

Did he?

We needed lots of improvements on last year but it he was given a limited budget I think it was a bit of a stupid decision to buy lots of players not good enough instead of 2 or 3 better signings.

He didn't spend what he had wisely but that's not my main issue with him. His tactics, his substitutions and his abysmal coaching is playing a big part in keeping us down the bottom of the league.

 

Well I disagree that he is an abysmal coach, his tactics at times are questionable but the logic behind them isnt, our players just arent good enough. He came in with loads of bold and forward thinking ideas of how to play football, make our own brand but the players werent up to it. 

 

Regarding transfers, he was always going to have to buy a new RB and LB. Lowton is better than Hutton, dont get me wrong he is far from good but he is ok, given the circumstances we found ourselves in I think its turned out quite well in regards to him.

 

Bennet is one that hasnt worked out as of yet, but I feel if we had a team of older, more quality and settled in players like Bennet would be able to flourish and develop far quicker than they are at the moment, I dont doubt they can make the step up, Im just not sure if they can do it in a team full of other people trying to step up ( if that makes sense ??? ).

 

He brought in KEA identifying that we needed a bit of presence, he looked like he could be good initially but ofcourse it hasnt worked out as of yet. Benteke has been great, Vlaar has been solid, not spectacular. He makes the occassional mistake but I really feel for our defense, at times we have zero confidence in keeping the ball and its just relentless attack after attack so mistakes are highlighted. Ashley Westwood is a player who next to a solid DM (lets hope Sylla fufills that role) can flourish in my opinion. Ball passed to him he ticks it over into the next phase of play. 

[Shankslad]

And get who in excatly ? You saying he should leave because he is a yes man, if he wanted to come and manage this club, revive our fortunes around despite the severe financial restraints randy has implemented I have nothing but respect and admiration for him. He is a top coach working under ridiculous conditions.

 

People conterminously question his signings, it is clear that when he arrived people had to leave, he had to bring 1/3 of a squad in on 20 million pounds and minimum wages. When people question his signings, which they are entitled to do it seems they completely forget the hoops he has to jump through.

 

Im not saying he hasnt made mistakes, he has. I want him as manager even if we go down, only coaches who are far far out of our league could do much better than Lambert and the crap he has to put up with. 

My point is that when he was interviewed for the job at Villa and Lerner told him what he wanted and how much he would have to spend.Lambert should have had the balls to say, 

1- the money you are giving me to spend is not enough for a PL team

2-The wages you want to pay are not high enough for a PL team

3- If you intend to stay in the PL then you have to pay PL money.

 

Perhaps Paul was convinced what worked so well at Norwich would also work at Villa?   Maybe Lerner thought Paul proved with Norwich you don't have to spend THAT much on players or pay huge salaries - Or perhaps PL was himself convinced that is the case and impressed Lerner that he can achieve success with a fraction of the expenditure of the past?   Who knows?

 

Criticisms of tactical blunders and messy defending are rife but there's never any mention of Ian Culverhouse's contribution in this area.   A lot of the good bits of Norwich's performances were attributed to Culverhouse's role too.   It's no co-incidence either that Chris Hughtons first priority was to sort out the shambles of Norwich's defence that he inherited from Lambert/Culverhouse.   I had been told in the past that it was Culverhouse who identified which players were potential targets - no idea if there's any truth in this but it has to be remembered coaching is a joint effort between the two of them.   Lambert is ultimately responsible of course.

 

Perhaps some specialised back room coaching staff need to be brought in concentrating on defence - Jist tae gie the bhoys a haun'

[Woodytom]

Were 19th in the league. Cant win for toffee. Getting outplayed by teams in lower divisions. Stop kidding yourself anybodys any good. 

 

Whats your evidence that hes decent? He looks comfortable on the ball? 

 

I thought his full debut vs Sunderland was very impressive and he looks fairly good any time he's not lumped with 2 players' work (when Bannan is playing).

 

Getting outplayed by Bradford in a competition Westwood was cuptied for is a bit of a stretch to blame on him IMO.

 

Being 19th doesn't mean that none of our players are "any good", QPR are 20th and they've got good players coming out their arsehole.

 

 

Have they? Even there manager has claimed that a lot of the players arent very good. Since they have started to sign half decent players they are actually looking difficult to beat and will probably get out of it. We look the complete opposite.

 

Very impressive against Southampton eh? You see this is what I mean. We lost 4-1 for goodness sake. How can anyone have been and I quote 'very impressive'?

 

The concept that you can have good players and be low in the table is of course true, but that is a weak argument for saying Westwood is any good. Im thinking Parker at West Ham, Juninho at Boro, Benteke and Weimann for us, Nzog/Maloney for Wigan. These are examples of good players in shit teams. Players who you can clearly pick out examples of times where they have made a difference.

 

'He looks fairly good any time hes not lumped with 2 peoples work' is a bit of a wishy washy statement and actually, quite a poor argument. 

[Avflife]

Ba from Porto on loan and Carragher from Liverpool on loan

 

or Vidic from Man U on loan maybe, or Mertesacker from Arsenal?

 

Ba is probably on £50k a week minimum

 

What makes you think Carragher was available for loan?

 

Fantasy Football

 

I'm not that much of a delusional individual to think that we could of got someone like Vidic or Mertesacker on loan. Like Dr_Pangloss said Ba wouldn't of been on anything near 50k per week, more like 25k. VillaCas are you a Lambert lover who thinks his poor signings expect for Benteke and Westwood and poor tactics (3-5-2 with wingbacks) have put the club into more trouble than we thought we could be this season

Edited February 3, 2013 by Avflife

[ozvillafan]

Well I disagree that he is an abysmal coach, his tactics at times are questionable but the logic behind them isnt, our players just arent good enough. He came in with loads of bold and forward thinking ideas of how to play football, make our own brand but the players werent up to it. 

 

I can't help but feel you have contradicted yourself there.

 

If the players "aren't up to" the manager's "forward thinking ideas of how to play football", then he needs to move to "Plan B". Not having a one - especially when you are bringing in players from lower divisions - is guaranteeing failure and the sign of a poor manager.

 

It's Lambert's job to get the best out of his players. One way to do this is playing a style/formation/positions that suit them.

[Super Jonno]

I kind of understand what your getting fella, and in fairness I think we have changed philosophy on a number of occasions this season, and im not just talking about formations im talking individual roles of players in an attempt to try and get the best out of what we have. 

 

Because of the financial restrictions placed upon him, he is a poor manager because he cant bring in proven quality? Not really a great point. Judge him on performances / results ( your entitled to do so) but calling him  a poor manager for bringing in players from lower leagues ( what 2 players ?? 3 if you include Sylla ) doesnt  hold up with me. Especially as his signings have been as a collective by far the better performers this season (minus Bennet + KEA .. although KEA less so ).;

 

Like i said I feel he has made mistakes on a number of occasions but that will not change my opinion that given time, god forbid a little more resources he will be good for us. Nor does it change my opinion of him, I think he is a top coach.

[ozvillafan]

I kind of understand what your getting fella, and in fairness I think we have changed philosophy on a number of occasions this season, and im not just talking about formations im talking individual roles of players in an attempt to try and get the best out of what we have. 

 

Because of the financial restrictions placed upon him, he is a poor manager because he cant bring in proven quality? Not really a great point. Judge him on performances / results ( your entitled to do so) but calling him  a poor manager for bringing in players from lower leagues ( what 2 players ?? 3 if you include Sylla ) doesnt  hold up with me. Especially as his signings have been as a collective by far the better performers this season (minus Bennet + KEA .. although KEA less so ).;

 

Like i said I feel he has made mistakes on a number of occasions but that will not change my opinion that given time, god forbid a little more resources he will be good for us. Nor does it change my opinion of him, I think he is a top coach.

 

Nah, he's not a poor manager for not getting proven quality - that was never suggested. I think some of his "lower league" signings will still come good.

 

He just has to do the best with what he has - and I don't see that happening. His tactics, formations, line-ups and substitutions have not helped. What I have seen too often is a side so disorganised, discouraged and lost for ideas that some of their performances wouldn't be acceptable at League 1 level.